Tire weight alloy

Every damned one of them IS a duplex printer. The Inkjets are HP Officejet Pro 8000 units.

OK, pardon me. I've never seen a high-end injket which printed duplex, only lasers.

They don't even need to be "high end" - my lowly Cannon ip4820 is a duplex printer and it was under $100 brand new.

You can't judge inkjet printers on the basis of $49.99 throw-away junk.

You're the first person ever to mention duplex inkjets to me. Shocking, it is.

I haven't. I've been judging them on the basis of a wide variety of inkjet brands priced from $29-$499 for, what?, a couple decades now.

We've had duplex inkjets for about 7 or 8 years already -

It really surprises me that I haven't seen anything about it. Of course, when I see "ink", I usually pass on the article, but I surely would have been interested to see a duplex inker. Velly Stlange.

Larry Jaques on Thu, 12 Feb 2015

For those places where it can be used - sure. But not every document is more than one page. Or can be doubled up on a single page.

I worked for an engineering firm in the WP pool. Get a document with sticky tabs. Make the edits, send to printers, and the copy readers pick it up and resume proof reading. Repeat until done. Send completed document back for review. Note revisions and start over.

Back in '68, those touting the "paperless office of the future" knew they had to make hard copies, and my Dad was pleased to know that there was a future for Pulp and Paper Forestry Majors.

tschus pyotr

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

have been told that one reason for an inkjet over laser is permanence. That the toner from a laser printer can be lifted. Which is "sub optimal" on legal documents - even if my CWP is done that way. I've also had more than one "keep this card in your wallet" transfer the print to the sleeve it was in. YMMV, and so may the technology.

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Laser is a "surface" print. Ink soaks in. You are right about that..

snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca on Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:31:45 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Which is one reason, given my druthers, I want documents intended to last for a long time, to be ink pressed into the paper. It is not like I'm going to insist on oak gall ink on parchment ... that's expensive!

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Big difference between pigment and dye based ink too. Dye based fades

- pigment doesn't.

Laser transfers with heat, inkjet smears with water. Neither technology is perfect.

Only water based ink spears with water, and even good water based pigment inks can not be washed out or totally obliterated with water. The average 20lb bond paper will disolve in water before the HP940 ink will wash out. (or even the Canon 226) 5 minutes in water will cause the ink to bleed through the fibers and become difficult to read, but the print is still there, and it won't transfer a legible copy to another sheet of paper, unlike laser prints subjected to heat..

Larry Jaques on Sun, 15 Feb 2015

Okay, back to the presses. Which were, unfortunately, slow to set up, produce and edit. But they were more permanent. B-)

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

It's obvious that we each like our own tech. So be it. ;)

Depending on the ink - offset press can run with waterborn ink too. So can a Heidelberg - and inkjets can run oil/solvent based inks as well.

And waterborn CAN be waterproof

Different horses for different courses. Can't say a clydesdale is a better horse than a thourobred, or a welach pony, for that matter.