Toolbit Grinding Jig PDF Posted

A PDF of the tool grinding jig I mentioned in the "2nd Day of Metalworking Class" thread has been posted to the Dropbox.

Tool Bit Grinding Jig.pdf Tool Bit Grinding Jig.txt

I am pretty sure that I got the names right this time. I copied and pasted them so it would be hard, but not impossible, to get them wrong.

I will try to take some pictures of the jig being used tomorrow and post them tomorrow night.

BTW. The Dropbox is such a terrific resource. Thanks Steve!!!

Errol Groff Instructor, Machine Tool Department H.H. Ellis Tech

613 Upper Maple Street Danielson, CT 06239

860 774 8511 x1811

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Errol Groff
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Now if you could just be persuaded to use "_" instead of " ", your names would be just as easy to read and your files would be easier to deal with for those not using Billware.

Ted

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Ted Edwards

Forgive my being dense but are you asking that an underscore ( _ ) be used between the words in file names instead of a space?

If so I will try to remember to do so.

Errol_Groff

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Errol Groff

Errol Groff wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Errol thanks for taking the time to post your fixture. Could you explain the operation using a fresh new bit?

Thanks! Marty

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Marty Escarcega

Better to cite them thus:

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Richard J Kinch

Errol,

I used the links provided by Richard Kinch to view your tool grinder. I think the only negative I can see is the inability to control the amount of side relief, but the tool is simple enough that one could easily have a few of them on hand with various angles for that special occasion when a different angle might be necessary. It's simple to use and obviously much faster (and safer) than hand grinding. Thanks for taking the time to show us.

Harold

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Harold & Susan Vordos

Hey Errol, and Harold, and...

I've tried a number of times to see the bit grinding jig Errol posted to the drop-box a few days ago. Every time I "pick" it, my computer throws a sort of hissy fit, and locks up the URL If I just go "look" at the list of drop-box files, I see that there are spaces in the text of those two. How do I get rid of the spaces, if that's what causing the problem?

Thanks.

Brian Laws>

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Brian Lawson

I reposted it to the dropbox for Errol as: Tool_Bit_Grinding_Jig.pdf

Hopefully that will fix some of the problems folks have been having with it.

Brian Lawson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

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Marty Escarcega

Hey Marty,

That did it!! Disregard the off-line reply I just sent you. Well, the first part anyway!.

Thanks aga>I reposted it to the dropbox for Errol as:

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Brian Lawson

There is more than one way to do things. I would suggest one of two ways... 1) Simply remove the spaces, and, capitalize the first letter of each word, producing this: ToolBitGrindingJig.pdf 2) Instead of an underscore, use a dash. Underscore can cause some odd problems here and there. That would produce THIS filename: Tool-Bit-Grinding-Jig.pdf I tend to prefer the first form, actually, as it cuts down on the number of characters in the name without messing with readability that much. Regards Dave Mundt

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Dave Mundt

That's exactly what I was asking. Thanks.

Both work well but you have aroused my curiosity. What sort of problems have you seen with underscores? I use 'em all the time without problems but if they cause problems for others, I would switch to one of your suggested methods for postings.

Ted

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Ted Edwards

Dosen't work for me! I get a 404 file not found or some such. ...lew...

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Lewis Hartswick

Hey Ted,

Now you understand why I use good ol' Bill's software! Works fine the way Richard set it up. ;-)

Harold

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Harold & Susan Vordos

I can read it too but some of the Unix based systems use ' ' as a separater between directories and/or filenames. Also, I have seen some software packages that object to spaces even though the base OS doesn't.

Using Billware, eh. How many firewalls and virus checkers do you need? :-)

Ted

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Ted Edwards

I run one firewall and one virus checker which is kept current automatically. It, so far, has done an outstanding job and I have no complaints with it. I can honestly say I've had NO trouble. I receive on the average of 15 to 30 virus infected email each day. I've never been infected. It might also interest you to know that my ISP catches the majority of the infected email before they are forwarded, so not many get through. I receive notice of them from my ISP if they are altered or the virus is deleted.

I've read with considerable interest as post after post has complained about problems, all the while having never been troubled by my software. You understand, though, that I am not computer literate and may just be living in my own little world where I'm having problems and don't know it! ;-)

Harold

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Harold & Susan Vordos

You'd almost certainly know it but you probably aren't doing stupid things like opening executables when you don't know the sender and/or what it's for. Also, from what you've told me, you aren't doing anything that's a particularly strenuous exercise for today's computers.

As to things like spaces in file names, the vast majority of computer users are using some form of Windows (due primarily to some rather questionable marketing practices) so whatever Windows allows is fine with most users. There are, however, certain practices that will work well with any system (I think you've heard of that with respect to machine tools) and I try to use and suggest those.

You are fortunate that your computer works well for your uses - that is what counts. I used 'doze before I switched to OS/2 and it was a lucky day if I got through two hours without a crash. Now crashes are rare indeed and when it happens it's almost always the app not the system. But then I likely push my system a lot harder than most users.

Ted

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Ted Edwards

Yeah, after I posted the correct links, he changed them.

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Richard J Kinch

Unless reading and posting to RCM, plus sending the occasional email is strenuous, you're absolutely right. I've stated on more than a few occasions I am not very literate, so I can't even imagine how I can use the computer to its capacity. Likely the reason I'm so content to use it as it is.

I also get the idea that Microsoft is publishing software that is very user friendly, if somewhat dangerous, according to many. I can see their point, too. For those that need to run a computer without understanding the technology, I'm of the opinion they're doing a good job of publishing a system that meets that criterion. It stands to reason that others with greater knowledge might desire features that were not so forgiving. That's certainly my attitude about machining, where I feel far more comfortable.

Sort of my attitude, too, Ted. It reminds me of how pleased you are with your machine. It really should not be up to me to judge you when you're enjoying tremendous success with the work you're doing. That there may be better ways is not an issue so long as your way works for you and you achieve results that please you. One thing for sure, when you do work with what might be considered less than optimum equipment, it's a sure sign that you have some talent, skill, and knowledge. Any fool can make a good part on a fine machine, it's the guy with moxey that can do it on a clapped out old junker. (Not directed at your machine, Ted! :-)). At any rate, I apply the same theory to my computer. I'm not smart enough to know better, and I'm getting everything from mine that I can possibly expect, and without problems.

I used 'doze before I switched to OS/2 and it was a lucky

I've had the odd crash, but even that isn't an issue. Maybe once every two or three weeks, maybe even longer. I have noticed that there are times when it gets bulky, but a reboot will usually clear any problems. Ignorance is bliss, at least in my case! I'm so slow at learning at the computer that I hesitate to even change editions of Windows. I have used only ME. I'd likely have to start over if I changed. Up until four years ago I was still using DOS. Couldn't get on line with it, though. Had to change. :-(

Regards,

Harold

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Harold & Susan Vordos

And note that I could put up a web page with filenames which would give Windows indigestion -- or Macs. One which I am sure that Windows would dislike is ''. Here we go -- an empty file, just as a test:

-rw-r--r-- 1 dnichols family 0 Feb 7 01:15 /tmp/junque\test\filename

Note that unix uses '/' as the subdirectory separator, so it is free to use '' for other things. Windows inherited the use of '/' as an option switch on the command line from MS-DOS, which inherited it from CP/M, which inherited it from some DEC OS for the PDP-11 I believe. So -- MS-DOS was forced to use '' as the subdirectory separator when it got subdirectories (MS-DOS was not born with subdirectories), and Windows inherited that.

I'm not sure, but I think that the Mac uses ':' as a subdirectory separator. If so, this should be a problem on the Mac:

-rw-r--r-- 1 dnichols family 0 Feb 7 01:20 /tmp/junque:test:filename

I won't bother putting them on a web page, since I don't need to do that to people.

But -- spaces in filenames used to be *possible* in MS-DOS, but you could not generate such a name on the command line. An old program (a typing tutor) created such a filename, and you could not get rid of it from the command line. I had to write a BASIC program to delete it, because BASIC went around the normal filename syntax checks. :-)

*I'm* not -- and I don't -- with unix -- but I'm still running a firewall in training, because there are other forms of attacks.

Enjoy, DoN.

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DoN. Nichols

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