History of Machine Tools

Giddings & Lewis is the first that comes to mind, perhaps Warner & Swasey.

Giddings & Lewis claims they were first in this company history.

Hmm. Hardinge, Cataract. Seneca Falls, Barnes. Pittler. Pratt and Whitney.

The earliest NC machine I saw was a Csip horizontal overarm jig borer, running off of paper tape. I think it was 50s vintage.

Photos of old lathe, NOT for sale:

Jim

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Errol:

The history of Machine tools seems like it would be a interesting subject, BUT... If I were in a limited time machine shop class for the purpose of increasing my skill level with the hope of becoming an employable entry level machinist, I think *I'd* (and probably prospective shop owners might also) be more interested in just HOW to edge find or indicator sweep my parts rather than knowing WHO designed the first edge finder, or indicator, or CNC. Don't take this wrong, I don't mean to be overly critical here, I'm just giving you a view from a job-shop productivity standpoint. If I were interviewing two prospective entry level apprentices I'd be more inclined to hire the one that showed a knowledge of the practical application of theory over one that had historical knowledge.

And I couldn't agree more. BUT, I am instructing in a vo-tech system that is run, largely, by academic types and there are things that we are told to do and ways in which to do them. This sort of assignment is one of those things.

Errol

You have a clear eye on "who's paying the bills" and if that person says to do something, they don't really want to hear how it's so much better to do something else. Acceptable answers are:

a) it's done, or

b) I'll have it done by X.

Regards - Jim

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You may find this site of interest:

Start with Leonardo DaVinci?

Errol:

Ahh, I see. So you have educational constraints just as job shops have machining constraints spelled out by the customer.

Here are a couple of thread titles with subject matter that touched on the history of CNC:

"history of CNC"

"History Channel /Cincinnati Museum/ machine tool history"

Take a look at the American Precision Museum in Vermont web site

Errol,

that topic could be covered in another class. Maybe make it part of the english curriculum. Just as the math classes should be oriented to machining. It would make you job easier if you only had to fill their brains with the actual machine operations.

John

Don't forget "Jacquard" of loom.

Hate to mention this, but we received word last week that G&L's foundry is closing permanently.

There is some possibility that our foundry would get some of the work. I work at the former Cincinnati Milling Machine Co. (or Milacron) foundry, now known as Cast-Fab Technologies, Inc.

If you'd like to see some historical photos of the machine tool industry, please go to:

Next week the auctioneers will be at the machine shop and everything must go. The foundry is the only part left still producing. Of course we use electric furnaces instead of the cupolas and furan sand instead of green sand but the building itself is still the same.

Mark Fields

IMO, this would be the right approach. Those interested in machining attend a english class that has been tailored to their curriculum.

Again, agreed. Wish I had a choice like this when I was in high school.

Excellent post... almost makes up for your short sighted anti-union one.

LOL

:>)

jon

interesting

This ought to get you started. *Smile

The question this group has been looking for a definitive answer for is: How did the "Letter" size drills come into being and why?

Now, a number of members in this group have made some good contributions in support of the origin; but I don't think anyone has been able to "rubber stamp" the quest complete.

Maybe one of your students might take up the banner.

These references come from "Metalworking Yesterday and Tomorrow" The 100th Anniversary Issue of American Machinist The book was given to me by Pete Noling ,who sold me my first Hurco in

Also, I'm pleased to see a group member interested in machine tool history.

Best regards to you all,

Stanley Dornfeld

David Wilkinson screw cutting lathe 1794

Eli Whitney Milling 1800

Simeon North pistols Milling Machine 1813

John Hall Machine developer 1813

Robbins & Lawrence American system interchangeable parts Windsor Vermont

Leighton A. Wilkie Band saw 1933

Sir Joseph Whitworth 1853 thread form

Joseph R Brown of Brown and Sharpe & Lucian Sharpe Brown's apprentice 1850

Frederick W Howe 1847

William Sellers instituted the 60 degree thread form with a flat on top equal to 1/8 the pitch. 1864

Charles H. Norton grinders 1900

Magnus Wahlstrom & Rudolph F. Bannow The Bridgeport Milling Machine 1927 Boring and Facing head

Richard F. Moore Jig Borer 1924 The Moore Special Tool Company The highest accuracy business in the world.

And!

John T. Parsons The Father of Numerical Control 1948

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Hey Bob...

When I first stood in front of a Bridgeport mill I thought it was just built by a big company. I didn't realize it was designed and built by a person like you or me. It's nice to believe a machinist can build something as cool as a milling machine. You get that feel by reading the history of inventions and their origins.

Also, history gives you a prospective of where the technology is going in the future. By viewing the origin of how an invention was conceived, then where it has come today, it can help us find the direction it will go in the future. If you have an idea where things will go in the future you can make plans to your advantage. *Smile

Regards,

Stan-

Take a look at the masthead, or at back of the issue, and see who the editors were.

I have a couple of copies, which are worth their weight in gold. But I'll let Errol have one for a while, if he wants to copy anything from it. I wrote a number of the items in that history, mostly about the 1930's and

Ed Huntress

VERY, VERY Coooooooooooooool Ed.

Dang! You're past your thirties. *Grin

Best regards,

Stan-

Ed:

I would love to have use of the copy! Thanks so much for the offer.

Errol Groff Instructor, Machine Tool Department H.H. Ellis Tech

860 774 8511 x1811