Heart felt sympathy - not a nice thing to confront you. It looks from
the photos that no major damage has been done at this stage unless the
water was higher and has receeded. Can you sweep it all of a door and
run a de-humidifier flat out for a while? Is there anything you can do
to prevent re-occurance. Was it a stream bursting its banks or what?
Peter you certainly have a way of bursting my bubble, I was admiring
the local pictures you had posted elsewhere for our American friends
(Kersey Watersplash particularly comes to mind) and only 8 hours later
you show us pictures of your indoor swiming pool. I'd forgotten about
the mud that always accompanies these events and I hope it is rural in
nature and doesn't include any little "presents". You can see I have
lived in town and country in my time.
Hope the cleanup goes well and there is not too much damage caused
other than to your schedule. Plenty of air flow (dry today) and the
de-humidifier tomorrow (wet all over the country again) and for a week
or two will give you a start. Is there anyway you can divert future
downpours or was it a freak storm. Down here the ground is so hard
below the surface after the long dry spells that the water just runs
off the top of the fields instead of soaking in, means that water seems
to run where you would not expect it and the ditches are not capable of
handling the flow.
Anyway, hope all goes well and the clean up is successful.
Good luck, best regards
Well so far the damage *seems* relatively limited.
The tide mark on the Dyson (DC02 - brillant workshop vac), the
Ultrasonic Bath, and the Ajax bench grinder (on the floor...) are all
well over the motor level etc, so these are probably FUBAR'd.
It was well over the bottom shelf of the Myford stand, and my brand
new Toolmex chuck which was sitting there is complely mud coated,
along with a Dremel type grinder, a couple of big rolls of workshop
tissue and other small tools.
A bunch of myford spares - saddle,topslide, and a small vice were
under the surface plate stand and are coated in mud but cleanable, and
a toolbox near the door is full too.
Two of my material boxes next to the mill are now full of mud coating
the various tool steel and mild steel blocks and bars but luckily the
larger box which held quite a lot of silver steel stock and gauge
plate is unscathed.
Luckily my big Abwood vices and rotary table were high enough on the
pallet that they didnt get touched, and it hasn't gone over the lip on
the base of the Bridgy, so the coolant sump on this is just full of
the normal muck.
My only worry now is the motor on the Grinder which sits very low in
the base and may well have been flooded. However as I'm going to
change this back to a 3-phase item it's not such a worry.
On the plus side it's made all the swarf on the floor a lot easier to
The cause of the flooding is unfortunately not really controllable.
Although we live in the highest residential area in my small town -
about 150ft above River Level - we are in a slight dip near the top of
2 road gradients and the same on a lane running down from a
All the water runs down these 3 hills into a small culvert that passes
underground for all of 6 feet and empties into a drainage ditch at the
back of the house 2 doors up. It runs through the ditch in his garden,
then the same in my neighbours, and into a 16" pipe running underneath
the back of mine (previous owner was a builder who put this in) and
back into another ditch on the other side, then underground into the
local authoritys system.
It's in this system that the problem is. It can't cope with all the
flow when it rains *very* heavily and as a consequence it backs up on
the 2 ditches either side of my property then overflows into their
gardens and then into mine.
This happened a few years ago - before the workshop was in - and no
bugger would admit that the responsibility was in their area.
Local council said it was a county problem, county said it was
highways department, highways said it was environment agency,
environment said it was anglian water, and they said it was down to
the local council.
Back to the clean up.
On or around Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:27:19 +0100, Peter Neill
enlightened us thusly:
bummer - however, it doesn't look as thought the water got much higher, so
it could've been worse.
Must try and get it together to replace the roof on my workshop. trouble is
it's gonna coast about 500 quid just for the roof sheets - at least you can
get roof sheets in long lengths which mean no faffing around making joins
half-way down. Simplifies the job considerably. I noticed the main beam
across the middle has got rotten and is in the process of falling down. If
it comes down completely, it'll bring most of the roof with it.
Not much help I suspect but is it worth dropping those "nice" items
like your Toolmex chuck into a bucket of diesel/paraffin/oil/WD40?
until you can get round to them. I'm no chemist but it might stop any
damage while they dry out and wait for you to have time to clean them
up. A few years ago I gave some water soaked items a spray of WD40 to
displace the water then dropped them in a bucket of diesel, they all
cleaned up Ok a few days later when I got to them. Messy job though.
Give them a good wash with a hose and several rinses in clean water
followed by a generous application of Hellermans Fospro and they
should be OK.
Used it on several motors and controller electronics which were under
(river) water for a week and all worked quite happily afterwards
(including one that had to be started straight away).
No Peter motors come out OK normally.
The rewind people have to do a load from a local quarry when it
They strip them, dry them in the oven and sometimes replace the
bearings if they are cheap.
specials get washed out and repacked.
It's a regular job for them.
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John & Peter, thanks for that info, bit of hope to recover them then
which is some good news anyway.
Got most of the water cleared out and a big dehumidifier in there now,
but the bad news is that more heavy rain is frecast for tonight:(
Is it worth investing in some sandbags? I bought a whole load last
year to build a 'wall of silence' round my generator and they were
remarkably cheap (ebay needless to say) - used up one of those bulk 1
tonne bags of sand.
It is my belief that the Environment Agency have a good deal of clout
with water/local authorities when incidences of pollution arise. In
this case it would seem that your property has been polluted by this
flood with the very likely consequence that you may have inadvertantly
caused, or could cause in the future, a secondary pollution incident as
a result of workshop oils etc being released into a water course. I
think in your position I would approach the Environment Agency
expressing a concern that oil pollution is a distinct possibility and
you may well find that some butts get kicked off their office chairs
and out into the real world to start sorting the problem out!
Best of luck, Martin.