Mars Exploration Rovers Update - February 20, 2004

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html
SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Digs a Trench - sol 47, Feb 20, 2004
On sol 47, ending at 12:36 p.m. February 20, 2004 PST, engineers
woke Spirit up to the song "Dig Down Deep," by Hot Soup, and that's exactly what Spirit proceeded to do. The two-hour operation performed by Spirit's left front wheel resulted in a trench 7-8 centimeters deep (2.8 to 3.1 inches) that uncovers fresh soil and possibly ancient information.
Spirit dug this trench at "Laguna Hollow" the same way that Opportunity dug its 9-10 centimeter (3.5 to 3.9 inch) trench at Meridiani. However, because the ground at this location is harder, Spirit had to dig for twice as long as Opportunity - going back and forth over the surface 11 times instead of 6.
After the trench was completed, Spirit backed up one meter, or more than a yard, and analyzed the area with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer before driving forward 0.4 meters (15.7 inches) and imaging the excavation site with the panoramic camera. A final move forward of another 0.4 meters allowed Spirit to take front hazard avoidance camera images of the arm work volume which was then centered on the trench.
After stowing the arm, the rover did a series of miniature thermal emission spectrometer observations of several nearby rocks, "Buffalo," "Cherry," "Cotton," and "Jiminy Cricket," and a combined miniature thermal emission spectrometer and panoramic camera observation of "Beacon." Spirit also took panoramic camera images of its deck to observe dust accumulation on the instrumented solar cells and on the miniature thermal emission spectrometer calibration target.
Spirit then took a siesta from 2 p.m. to 3:45 p.m. Mars Local Solar time and woke up for some more panoramic camera and miniature thermal emission spectrometer observations of "Beacon," and miniature thermal emission spectrometer ground and sky stares. All activities up through the afternoon pass by the Mars Odyssey orbiter were completed successfully.
OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Enter the Rock Abrasion Tool - sol 26, Feb 20, 2004
On sol 26, which ended at 12:18 a.m. Friday, February 19, PST, Opportunity successfully obtained one final Moessbauer spectrometer reading of the trench, stowed the rover arm, and drove 15 meters (50 feet) to the "El Capitan" area. The drive was Opportunity's longest yet and required the vehicle and planners to skirt the trench and avoid the lander.
The plan for sol 27, which will end at 12:57 a.m. Saturday, PST, is to first "supersize" the measurements of the "El Capitan" area with the panoramic camera, miniature thermal emission spectrometer, and microscopic imager. The mineralogy and geology teams have requested a minimum of three hours worth of "super resolution" and "super spectral" observations for the science instruments to get the most comprehensive coverage of this interesting site, which has varying textures and layers of dirt and rock.
After a short siesta in the early afternoon, Opportunity will drive 30 centimeters (12 inches) to sneak a bit closer to the rocks in "El Capitan" to get ready for the rock abrasion tool to do its work. After the drive, the Opportunity team plans to take a picture of the martian sky with the panoramic camera and miniature thermal emission spectrometer. If time permits, Opportunity will attempt to aim its cameras toward the heat shield in the far distance.
Over the weekend, Opportunity plans to find the perfect spot to use the abrasion tool and set it loose to grind away on "El Capitan," which will be the first use of the rock abrasion tool by Opportunity.
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February 20, 2004
Ron wrote:

We don't give a roving fuck about Spirit and Opportunity anymore Ron, because we lost our spirit when we lost our opportunity to have equal access to the data that we paid for. So fuck off, or show us the spectroscopy, asshole.
What we do want to know, however, is how much the NASA DJ gets paid, and how many NASA funded scientists it takes how long in JPL a committee to decide what song gets played, to wake up the inanimate rover.
Can you please enlighten US? Dig deep.
Thomas Lee Elifritz http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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Where's the bar of soap?
: February 20, 2004 : : Ron wrote: : : > http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html : > : > SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Digs a Trench - sol 47, Feb 20, 2004 : > : > On sol 47, ending at 12:36 p.m. February 20, 2004 PST, engineers : > woke Spirit up to the song "Dig Down Deep," by Hot Soup, and : : We don't give a roving fuck about Spirit and Opportunity anymore Ron, : because we lost our spirit when we lost our opportunity to have equal : access to the data that we paid for. So fuck off, or show us the : spectroscopy, asshole. : : What we do want to know, however, is how much the NASA DJ gets paid, and : how many NASA funded scientists it takes how long in JPL a committee to : decide what song gets played, to wake up the inanimate rover. : : Can you please enlighten US? Dig deep. : : Thomas Lee Elifritz : http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net :
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You got a mouse in your pocket? You speak for no one but yourself, and you do that very poorly.
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:

You are, of course, speaking for yourself.
*I* appreciate these updates. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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Of course, JPL and NASA scientists and the majority of the American public are apparently too stupid to understand the ramifications of the mission spectroscopy. That might change if NASA and the media quits dumbing them down.

Sure you do. Are you NASA's DJ?
Thomas Lee Elifritz http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:

I understand that you don't know about my name.
My name is *never* used as "DJ". I do not work for or with NASA.
My name is used either as "D. Jay Newman" or "Jay".
I agree that information should be free, but it *will* be free. There is merely a year's delay. This seems to be contractual, and there seems to be nothing unfair about it. Most research projects fail to release the raw data right away. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:19:49 -0500) it happened "D. Jay Newman"

Although I appreciate Ron's updates, these Do become a bit monstrous, but I already reported that earlier (black hole music etc..). But it seems directed to 4-8 year olds, so for those they must be very valuable. I am glad with the NASA site and the pics. Is it real American to give names to every one inch stone? You could make a grid and give reference like a chess board stone x,y (north west), that would perhaps be more useful? Say a 10 cm grid center on the lander...
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valuable.
Why not sell names of each individual stone like they did for the stars? For $20, we will name a stone on Mars after you to help finance future exploration of the stars.
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February 21, 2004
DrPostman wrote:

[snip nonsense]

See how easy it is to use a supercomputer to post text messages on the usenet, Dr. Crackpot? None of those pesky ones and zeros at all. It's called software.
In the language of spectroscopy, they are called spectrographs and spectrograms, and the data reduction is usually automated, by, of all things, software. Go figure.
Thomas Lee Elifritz http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:17:54 GMT, Thomas Lee Elifritz

How dare you.
-- Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed" Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT member #15-51506-253. You can email me at: TuriFake(at)hotmail.com
"You are the kook, not me - and I won't even bother to see what that acronym means." - Joseph Bartlo responds to IKYABWAI
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The above translated reads: "Spirit calling earthly DJ, do you take requests or dedications?"
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I ran the original binary message (generated by a flamebot--what can I say...I'm lazy) through several different converters. Using this one:
http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_to_Text.asp
It produces a little bit better text of the binary.
Thanks for the post!
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I'm forced to agree that any embargo is difficult to justify. These missions are paid for by the American taxpayer, the information is important and we should be trusted to decide for ourselves the meaning of the mission data.
I can sympathize with the desire to protect researchers, but only in situations more routine. If this is the cost of attracting the better researchers it's too high. Public release would make the information available to the best the world has to offer. So the motive is self-serving, not in the interest of the public. It was bad enough to have to wait a year for the Hubble images.
When a government decides what the people should 'think' and what we should know, it is in need of change. Any government needs to trust its people if we are to trust it.
Nasa is making a charade of the idea of sharing with the public. The news releases are becoming worthy of politicians, not scientists.
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It is not a matter of trust. It is about putting the data in usable form. I am completely certain that you are not competent to analyze the raw data. You have demonstrated that you lack the knowledge base, the proper tools, and the skills necessary. The same is true for probably 99% of the American taxpayers. Even if they sent out free analysis programs with detailed directions to every single American taxpayer - they still wouldn't be able to do it. They wouldn't even know what to look for. Most American taxpayers are not fluent in the subjects required.I am equally confident that Elfritz, who began this rant, would not be able to do a single thing with the raw data. I think it unlikely he will be able to do anything with the analyzed data either - when it comes out.
By the way, which specific data are YOU refering to that you think is being "embargoed" and specifically how long do you think it will be "embargoed"?

Talk about sounding like a politician. Another irrelevant generic argument demonstrating a total lack of understanding of the specifics. If you think otherwise, please provide the specifics.
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--snip--
OK. Enough time has passed. You have not responded. I take it from your lack of response that you accept my assessment of your behavior as correct.
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Your words, not mine. In no way did I say or even imply that.
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El Guapo wrote:

I have to agree with Mr El Guapo ... I am far outside of the scientific community - What the hell am -I- supposed to do with spectroscopy data? Nothin more than fancy wall paper, if you don't know what the hell you're lookin at.
I get nothing from Mr El Guapo's statement that makes me think he's calling Americans idiots. WHY THE HELL would your average american, who ISN'T working in a deeply scientific field know what to do with spectroscopy data? If YOU think he's calling all Americans idiots...well, you have some serious issues you need to work out, and I wish you the best of fuc*in luck on it.
-Alex
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February 25, 2004
Alex Wisnieski wrote:

An idiot, obviously. I wonder why you bother to post on science newsgroups.

Look at it and analyze it, but since you are a self proclaimed idiot, that seems unlikely.

These are science newsgroups you are posting to idiot, if you don't understand something, you learn it, that is what science is all about.
Americans - obese, ignorant and stupid, and proud of it.
Thomas Lee Elifritz http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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