Simultaneous IR Object Detection and IR Control?

I am planning to build a robot that uses a Sharp GP2D120 for IR object detection. I would also like to control it using a VCR remote control and the Sony
IR protocol.
Is there any way of doing this without the IR signal from the remote control causing the GP2D120 to think it's detected an object?
Any feedback will be appreciated.
Thank you.
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Decode all the characters on the Sony remote. Find a unique character that's not on the remote. Transmit the unique character from your IR LED (used to detect objects)with some time between the character being sent and when receiving and decoding characters use that character as an object detected condition. You will still need to deal with receiving the remote and detecting the object at the same time but this will allow the receiver to identify the signal being detected as an object or a command.
Hope this helps,
Dennis
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:02:02 -0800, redbrickhat wrote:

You should be able to shield the GP2D120 from the IR remote control, although reflection could be a problem. I wonder if the hood could be made from something that wouldn't reflect IR? However, I'm also guessing they are modulated on different frequencies, so you might be trying to solve a problem that does not exist.
If you simply can't make this happen, for whatever reason, try the TLP434/RLP434 Easylink Wireless modules. They use RF at 434MHz. They should work reliably, although they will cost more and take more power.
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I missed the OP's post, so I'll respond to this one.
Most of the Sharp distance sensors have a very slow modulation compared to the typical 38-40K modulation of an infrared remote. The differences in modulations should never cause the output of the distance sensor to false-trigger the IR remote input.
However, the output of the distance sensors, while a very narrow beam, is quite bright, so it could conceivably swamp the IR receiver. Merely mounting the two to avoid this problem should not be hard. The distance sensor uses a PSD device that would require you to point the IR remote directly into the aperture of the sensor, in order for any interference to occur this way. The Sharp distance sensors are made for varied light environments -- such as brightly lit public restrooms -- so a baffle or shield shouldn't be necessary.
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redbrickhat wrote:

It sounds like the distance detector is a canned solution that you can't change, which may limit your ability to solve problems.
One thing you could do is simply sanity filter the output - if the distance reading jumps, take another. Don't believe anything that doesn't read the same (+/- error) twice. Harder if you have it spinning to scan the room...
If you were designing both IR systems from scratch, using different modulation frequencies would help. It's possible they are already different - have you tried and verified a problem? When the IR transmitter and receiver are adjacent, it's easy to use synchronous detection (turn on the source, read, turn off the source, read, subtract) to get noise immunity - the module may already do that. When the source is something else, you are limited to filtering based on frequency (or much more complicated, pseudorandom code) and checking the data for validity with a checksum, etc.
Would polarizing filters work with IR?
Have you tested to verify there's actuall a problem?
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:02:02 -0800, redbrickhat wrote:

Just modulate them at different frequencies, like they do with radio stations. :-)
Good Luck! Rich
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redbrickhat wrote:

This shouldn't cause much of a problem -- The Sharp detectors use a modulated signal of ab0ut 1 khz with a 10% duty cycle. The remote control detector/demodulators use a signal of around 38-42 khz. In general, this won't cause a problem -- one of my robots uses the sharp detectors as auxiliary obstacle detectors and can also be controlled via VCR remotes -- I've not noticed any issues in practice.
Hope that helps -- tAfkaks
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