Another Dumb Australian question

Is there a calculation for wind dfirt vs altitude vs time for guesstimating where a rocket under a certain size chute weighing x with x knots of wind may wind up?

Michael

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Michael Mackay-Blair
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According to Murphey's Rocket Calculator. The answer is always the nearest Tree, Pond/Creek or Rooftop.

But seriously I guess Rocsim does that but I never check accuracy on drift distance.

Layne

guesstimating

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L&K

Or in my case the nearest paddock containing the most irritable Red Angus Bull on the face of the Earth!

But thanks for that mate.

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Michael Mackay-Blair

Or as I saw recently in a list of "Funny Signs From Around The World"...

The farmer will gladly let anyone cross the field for free... but the bull charges!

-dave w

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David Weinshenker

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JIM

It's actually a couple simple calculations.

Altitude / descent rate = duration

duration * wind speed = drift

Example: a rocket ejects at 5000', has a descent rate of 20 f/s, and the wind speed is 15mph.

5000f / 20fps = 250 seconds or .06944 hours 15 * .06944 = 1.04 miles

Have a nice walk.

Thermals change the descent rate!

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Bob Kaplow

Thermals may make the descent rate negative!!!

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<mark.johnson

So do differing wind speeds -- often the wind at altitude is much faster than the wind at ground level.

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RayDunakin

Unless the wind is moving vertical, how would that change the descent rate?

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Jamyurspam

It generates lift.

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Darren J Longhorn

Jam replied:

D'oh! You're right. What I meant to say was that it changes distance the rocket will travel. You could calculate the distance based on the wind at ground level, yet have the rocket go much farther than that due to faster winds at altitude.

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RayDunakin

Been there. Done that.

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Bob Kaplow

Also true. BTW, for those that don't know, when you call the FAA at

1-800-WX-BRIEF to get the pilot weather briefing, they give you the winds aloft numbers as well. They are often in a different direction than surface winds.

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Bob Kaplow

That would be a thermal. Or a tornado...

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Bob Kaplow

Either you have a rather low descent rate, or you are flying in winds over

20mph.

9000/20=450 seconds or .125 hrs .125 * 20 = 2.5 miles

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Bob Kaplow

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Yes, I admit I wasn't following the conversation closely enough. But, are you saying that a cross wind won't help generate lift?

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Darren J Longhorn

Likewise...

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<mark.johnson

When you have an A PD model thermal away it is fun. When you have a G powered 4"x84" Mega-Roc thermal away that is just COOL.

Jerry

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Jerry Irvine

Or Turbulence..

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JIM

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parachute,

Yep, that's what I'm saying. An object in free fall cannot "sense" any crosswind at all. It is has no ability to resist the crosswind, so therefore it travels at the same speed and direction as the wind. Jump in a river and swim across... as soon as you hit the water you'll be traveling down stream, and you wont feel the current at all.

Likewise, if you threw an airfoil (hydrofoil) in the river, it would float downstream, generating absolutely no lift what-so-ever.

steve

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