I've purchased my last issue of "Extreme Rocketry"

ROTFLMAO!!!

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Dave Grayvis
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THAT sounds like the real problem. Advertizers aren't getting the hit rate from ER, so they drop their ads. Publisher is now short of $$$ to continue.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

Very observant Bob. That was my theory all along. Advertising in hard copy is expensive compared to maintaining a webstore, and generates only a small fraction of the sales. It is good PR though, that's why I continued until I could no longer afford to. Since the whole industry is hurting right now, usually the first thing to go is ineffective advertising. We're running lean and mean over here.

Mike Fisher Binder Design

Reply to
Mfreptiles

I ramped mine up :)

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

LOL!!

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RayDunakin

I agree, the depth is often lacking. Would be nice to see more detail, plans etc. I like the interviews but often too much space is wasted on large "family album" pics.

Reply to
RayDunakin

You ramped up ineffective advertising?....Doesn't sound like a smart move to me. I try to stick with what's working, but that's just me.

I hear you're made of money anyway. How about a bid for Aerotech?:)

Mike Fisher

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Mfreptiles

The industry NEEDS the support.

Hmmm. It seems RCS/Gary is willing to compete with his own Aerotech (breach of fiduciary duty) so why bother?

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Where do you advertise?

Reply to
Dave Grayvis

Yes, but if you hurt your business financially to do it, the point is moot, especially if it means that you have to shut down.

Reply to
Mfreptiles

Well, at least he keeps costs down.

Reply to
Dave Grayvis

Jerry uses RMR, of course....:)

Mike Fisher

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Mfreptiles

Jan/Feb SR just arrived.

8 pages on Kingsford High School's high power program including bowling ball rocket (extreme). 8 pages dedicated to a level 3 flight (intermixed with small box ads) from project construction to lessons learned. 3 pages Civil Air Patrol 1 full page rocket plans 3 pages Bee Two (hpr with dual deploy) 5 pages launch report including a multiple L1500 motor rocket (extreme) 2 pg rocket review 2 1/2 pg certified motors (waste) 3 page review estes r/c glider (extreme) 4 pages launches

I believe the Estes glider is the same one I sent money in for in the late

70s, early 80s which they refunded because they didn't go into production. I shoulda waited...

Granted, they intermix small ads with the articles, but there's meat in them stories. Being as in-depth as they are, I don't mind reading the topics I'm not particularly interested in (duration and what not). I think it's extreme that they can do so much with so little compared to building huge rockets that just weigh more and use more glue.

Tomas Beach deserves a hearty pat on the back and swift kick in the backside to get back to work on the next issue...

I'd bet money he's already heard "there's not enough mod rock content in this issue"!

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Snicker do

Point. Kudos from me too.

My ads are more a vote of support for the good work on the magazine than any expectation of "pull".

NAR policies tend to kill that hope sufficiently well.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

size.

Comic Books were much bigger then that when I last read them.

Art

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ArtU

True but if you are kicking ass and taking names, then running a few ads is a drop in the bucket, why not piss a bit in that direction too. I have more beer :)

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

If you are kicking ass and taking names, then you are the ONLY one in the industry doing so right now.

Mike Fisher

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Mfreptiles

The HPR industry is screwed by association policies. Not by laws. Not by the economy. Not even by the Aerotech accident.

Association policies. Whether you believe me or not I actually don't care but I have been doing this for 30+ years and I know what constitutes a good or bad economy and other issues like companies coming and going like the sunrise.

Association policies are the culprit.

Pure and simple.

And last I checked I was NOT in the HPR industry.

Association policies are the culprit there too.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

You ain't heard nothin yet!

I was just looking at the AT bankruptcy papers & they are planning to stiff Rocketeer Media (ER) for $6444. That bitch is REALLY gonna scream!!

Phil

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Phil Stein

How much do you want to bet they continue to blackball USR who has tried to get them to settle and resolve, but they now allow "RCS" to advertise with no hiccup at all despite the fact that "Aerotech" (owned by the same guy) stiffed them.

For a much LARGER amount than RM/ROL "refuses to accept" from USR.

I say refuses to accept because that is exactly what is happening. I tried numerous times to "make good" and they refused!!!

That's friggin phunnie!

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Jerry Irvine

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