Re: horizontal takeoff / horizontal boost gliders?

I accept no ones word at "face value" when they reply with a pathetically

> simple "your wrong"

Except he is an authority on the topic.

> cite your proof please. its not that I do not believe you but I would like > to read the pertinent rules governing this. > > it makes sense for performance events but what rules prevent you using a > "high start" etc.. in sport scale or R&D etc.. > > Chris Taylor >
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Jerry Irvine
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Hmmm. It appears that the first link may have bandwidth issues. If you're having trouble accessing it, perseverence should eventually get you through to the site, and it's worth the effort.

...Rick

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Rick Dunseith

And believe me, it's worth it!

Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

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the notorious t-e-d

The general NAR competition rule is something like, "A launcher must not impart any velocity or change of momentum except that caused by the medle rocket engine(s) contained in the model." You can look up the exact rule yourself. However, you might be a ble to get away with it in R&D.

Alan

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Alan Jones

ahh so this rule is a general rule ie applying to all events ?

then it would make sense although I really think some of these rules should be omitted for non performance events.

I also think ANY safety certified motor should be permitted for non performance based events like R&D and Scale (except scale altitude since its performance based)

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Chris Taylor Jr

that has got to be one of the sadest things I have ever seen happen to a model.

any word > > Rick Dunseith wrote ...

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Chris Taylor Jr

Isn't there also a rule that says an RSO can waive a rule or the CB director at NAR can? I seem to recall making an application to CB Bundick for 40/40 sport scale (minimum 40ns) which he summarily rejected of course. He also refused to let me run two open contests concurrently, which was within the rules. BTW.

Jerry

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Jerry Irvine

Jerry was talking about NAR rules, not AMA.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

5.5 The Paul Hans rule.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

That's the rule. 5.5.

Yes, in R&D you can not only get away with violating pink book rules, but even the safety code!

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

I agree with this change. For example it would allow the F21 in PMC or SCALE.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

Many years ago here was a rule that allowed special rules ONLY AT NARAM. Of all the places to allow this NARAM was the worst possible choice. The few times it was done, it was really screwed up.

Contest directors can not impose additional rules, such as no composite motors, or minimum power class on any event. If you wnat NAR points, you have to follow NAR rules. What you do for fun events is up to you.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

That doesn't explain why you cannot run two open meets in one day. This because the average participant travel time was 6 hours. Average!

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Jerry Irvine

According to the AMA National Model Rocket Safety Code

  1. LAUNCH ANGLE - I will not launch rockets so that their flight path will carry them against targets. My launch device will be pointed within 30 degrees of the vertical. I will never use model rocket engines to propel any device horizontally.

Mario Perdue NAR #22012 Sr. L2 for email drop the planet

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Mario Perdue

Well you coudl still high start, pull up, and then fire the motor. Like John Kallend does with his Ladyhawk second motor.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

Oh, man...what went wrong?

Eldred

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EldredP

Cool...

Eldred

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EldredP

No idea what went wrong but I did download the whole thing(27mg) prior to any troubles. It's about 8 minutes long. Be great if I could email it....

Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

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the notorious t-e-d

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