Brian McD. wrote:
<< Firstoff, I haven't heard of a single case of the ATF enforcing their rules
on people (as far as rocket motors go). I don't want to hear any of that crap
about Jerry Irvine and the DOT fines. That was the DOT, not the ATF, and is
therefore beyond the scope of this message. If I should ever hear that somebody
has been busted for having an H128 without a LEUP, then I will be concerned.>>
<< Secondly, when you get down to the level of individual agents, NOT THE
BUREAUCRACY, do you really think that somebody at the ATF is going to want to
drive out to the middle of nowhere on a Saturday or Sunday to bust a few guys
out flying rockets?>>
When and if the ATF busts anyone, it'll be dealers. Going after individual
flyers would be difficult and would have far less impact. As for people who
say, "Am I going to get busted for these motors I have now," well that's just
stupid. Do they think the ATF has bugged the homes of everyone in the country,
and knows what motors you have before you tell them?
<< The apes at the head of the Bureau can scare us all they want, but the
actual people who do the work probably won't do anything. The ATF has better
things to with its manpower do than to actively go after us.>>
I wish the ATF would figure that out. They do seem to be wasting plenty of time
and manpower on enforcing/inspecting LEUP holders.
<< The "rockets as missiles" video was a result of us making the leadership
Actually, it was the result of a certain individual's misguided attempt to push
a rocketry exemption through Congress prematurely.
<< This whole mess could have been avoided if we had not got involved with the
ATF in the first place.>>
To do that, we would also have to have avoided any involvement with the NFPA.
<< Rocketeers are amateur scientists! We know that APCP is not an explosive! We
know that in the grand scheme of things, the amount of propellant we typically
use is insignficant (think about how much propellant is in a NASA booster). We
kept asking them if what we were doing was OK, and each time, they gave us a
stricter interpretation of the rules.>>
Scientific fact is irrelevant to legal fact, as the ATF has proven. There are
items on the explosives list that are not even low explosives, such as
<< This case should have been put to rest 10 years ago.>>
How? By giving in and letting the ATF regulate us to death? What would that
<< Things are not as bad as they seem. Just get on with it fly your rockets. >>
I agree. No matter how bad things get, until the ATF actually stops me from
flying, I will continue to fly. There's no reason not to.