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The ones on the sides and around the turret? Yeah, quite a few of those.

Pat

on 2/3/2008 11:15 PM snipped-for-privacy@some.domain said the following:

Yes. I have one. It's an Italaerie (old spelling) 1/35 Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf. (H). Kit # 218. Shurzen (shields) around the hull and turret. It's at least 25 years old.

halfway down the page.

which? mins just has the turret.

thanks

I'm pretty sure Tamiya did one also. Monogram had one in 1/32nd scale back in the early 1970s, and DML almost has to have one considering their plethora of Panzer IV kits.

Pat

That's odd; most of the time they had both mounted. I did find a photo from around the time of the Battle Of The Bulge with just the turret set mounted though:

's some pictures of what one looked like with the side armor: they are supposed to do is cause bazooka rounds to detonate before they hit the hull of the tank. IIRC on some of the last Panzer IVs the side screens were made of wire screen, not solid metal sheet.

Pat

Here's the Tamiya one:

's the perforated mesh side armor plates I mentioned: also had these for the armor around the turret.

Pat

no skirts on the tamy i have. just the mounts. that's why i'm looking.

thanks

same box i have for the tamy, but no skirts for the side.

Eduard had both standard and mesh Shurzen:

sorts of info on the plates over here: a pinch, the side plates could be made out of sheet styrene fairly easily.

Pat

Did you buy it new in a sealed box?

Pat

i want to build another that comes with skirts for definite.

yep. only thing i can figure is if they were on a solo sprue. but all the turret stuff was there. i want to do a more candid with some damaged and one missing with the rails bolluxed, too.

on 2/4/2008 5:17 PM Pat Flannery said the following:

The reason there are no side skirts on that one is because the tank has the track extenders for snow and soft ground, and the side skirts cannot be mounted.

thanks, bill.

on 2/5/2008 12:10 PM snipped-for-privacy@some.domain said the following:

The widened track on the Mk 4, and others, was called 'Winterketten' (winter track). It may have also been called 'Ostketten' (east(ern) track) which was used on the eastern front and also all Tiger tracks. I don't know if there is a definitive difference between the two, although they look different.