[Q] Hasegawa vs Tamiya BF109s and other German planes

I was wondering, how do the 1/48 Tamiya BF-109Es compare with the
Hasegawa ones?
Specifically, these ones:
Hasegawa J1 BF109 E-3
Hasegawa J2 BF109 E-4/7
Hasegawa J3 BF109 E-4
and the Tamiya BF 109E3 (61050)
In addition, has anyone built these? Are the panel lines recessed or
raised, and how's the overall detail?
Hasegawa 1/48 JT13 Stuka
Dragon 1/47 5515 Me 262A-1a
Reply to
Sir Loin of Beef
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From what I understand, the nose is off dimension wise. One of trhe 109 nuts, I mean experts here will confirm
If I'm not mistaken, Tamiya did a remake, and changed/fixed the wrong nose profile. But then again, I could be wrong.
Both reccessed panel lines. The Stuka goes together with no filler if you pay attention enough. Nice cockpit, just add seat harness, and you will have a nice interior. Adding PE, and or resin will make it better but is not really necessary. Proper painting is far more important here ! The 262 is an ex Trimaster kit, and as such is not the easiest kit at all. You WILL use filler in the wingroots, and engine nacelles. How much depends on how well you test fit, sand and test fit some more. But definately not a shake and bake kit like the Tamiyas are. Personally I think the Trimaster/DML 262's are the most accurate 1/48 262's available, and very nicely detailed out of the box. They are a headache to build tho....................
Allan
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AM
How badly is the Hasegawa nose off?
Is there still any reason to get the Hasegawa releases instead of Tamiya then? Or do they both come with different decals?
Is there still any reason to get Dragon's Me262A-1a instead of Tamiya's? I previously saw a nice buildup of the Dragon release into the V056 version, but have no idea what extra parts would be needed.
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Sir Loin of Beef
Here's a very nice comparison of the Tamiya kits:
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Scroll down and look at the links listed for Tuesday, Dec 21 2004.
After reading this comparision, I now plan to also pick up one of the clear Tamiya ones...and paint it. I also have the DML and Tamiya A-2a kits - both fine kits as far as I'm concerned.
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Rufus
There were subtle inaccuracies in the first release of the Hasegawa 109 family. They then made a new mold and released a whole new series. Rivet counting is fun but both look enough like 109's to satisfy me. These and the Tamiya kits are all fine, just try to finish them all! Look here:
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The Keeper (of too much crap!)
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Keeper
Does this mean the Dragon release gives you parts for a V056 while the Tamiya release does not?
How do the Dragon engines compare with the Tamiya ones?
Reply to
Sir Loin of Beef
Correct, and the only Dragon/DML/Trimaster 262 with complete engines is DML/Dragon kit# 5515 of V 056
My Tamiya 262 kit's dont have engines at all.....
Reply to
AM
The clear one does.
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Rufus
I did not know that, Hmmm......;-)~ (as I decide wether it is really worth getting one now... :)
I am actually trying to finish a 1/32 109 G6 by the end of next month (seriously !) And am right now trying to get into 1/32 F 15C mode now, so I can have that on it way when the 109 is done. My steady background project right now is a 1/48 Ju52 with several aftermarket sets, open hatches etc...
An Sdkfz 251 C or D is on the list somehwere in the fiture.
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AM
Heh...we think alike. I have those kits in waiting, too...
Bogged down in 1/72 Bear J and F/A-18F. The Hornet is nearest to being finished, then the Bear behind it.
...then I can get back to that 1/32 F-14A that's been stalled for most of the year.
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Rufus
Yeah, but you are doing a Bear, that really counts for something !! (though the Ju 52 w/aftermarket is big to me tho ! :)
I see I not the only one who is having a problem, and building a kit (s) in blind mans scale. Worse were are even telling people about it in public !!
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AM
Out of the stash and onto the bench! And in addition to that flexi file, you can never have too many Berna Assembler clamps - I could use double what I have for this Bear J.
This is the second Revell 1/32 Tomcat I've done. Took a first in the one and only contest I've ever entered with the first one...not only is 1/32 my preferred scale, but I'm a PROUD aftermarket junkie. This one is getting the Tecknics cockpit (like the first one) and LANTIRN pod, some Eduard exterior etch, Cutting Edge AIM-9s, CAM decals, Black Box GBUs, scratch-re-building and detailing all of the gear legs...and for the first time I'm scratchbuilding all of the detail in the wheel wells - that's where I've been bogged down.
AND - I have two more Tamiya 1/32 Toms in waiting...in fact, I have all of hte 1/32 Tamiya jets except the F4E and the new F-16. Though I do have two 1/32 Revell F4Es, and a G conversion kit...and that's the SHORT list...
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Rufus
Ok, I get it now
Out of the 375+ A/C kit's I have, only 5 are 1/72, and 5 more of them are 1/32. The rest are all 1/48, the true modelers scale :)
I just have to figure out why I have 17 FW 190's, 12 ME 262's, 8 JU 88's and approx 10 ME 109's........ (all 1/48)
Now all the 100+ AFV kit's I have are 1/35
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AM
I started out to do a series of German "firsts" in 1/48 - jets, rockets and such. That deteriorated into a whole collection of WWII German stuff, so I made another pact to build only WWII in 1/48, and only jets in 1/32.
Now that's deteriorating...with Hasegawa and Trumpeter coming out with so many great WWII kits in 1/32 my 1/32 collection is now out of hand...I have all of the Has Me 109s except the G2, the 190s, the Tamiya Zero, the Trumpeter P-38, F4U-1D, 2 Wildcats, and soon the TBF and maybe another P-38. And about all of Trumpeters 1/32 jets except the F-105D and NA-10.
AND - that stash of 1/48 stuff is STILL climbing te walls...the German collection is pretty good size, I've "had" to grab just about anything in 1/48 from Hasegawa that is a Japanese a torpedo bomber or recon plane (just because I got a good deal on a Tamiya Betty...), and the USAAF and RAF stuff is growing.
AND on top of THAT...I've begun to rekindle an interest in armor...Trumpeter's SA-2 kits (got two - one about finished, and the transport truck) and Karl Morser have me drooling...
AND - I HAVE to have etch, Moskit exhausts, and decals for EVERYTHING...I'm hopeless, I tell you...HOPELESS...save yourself.
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Rufus
Models will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no models!
The Keeper (of too much crap!)
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Keeper
You must have been coming over to my house and taking stuff !!
You are as bad or worse than I. OK got a question for ya. How many of your detail sets are now collectors items ? (only kidding as I'm sure some are already, crazy world !)
Well... New years day I really got some work done on the Ju 52. Mated the CMK forward cockpit, ground off sidewall detail, ground off the seatbelts on 15 seats in preperation for pe harnesses, and removed and cleaned up a LOT of interior plastic parts. Got all the bulkheads installed on the floor. Lot's (!!!) of overflow tabs need removing and cleaning up with this kit.
I've only got two more wingroot lines to rescribe and cleaning up the supercharger intake, and I will be ready to paint the 1/32 109 G6, going to work on that one today, though it will be by the end of the week till I get to painting. (got to finish adding seatbelts too)
At least I have started this new year off well model building wise !!!!!!
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AM
Hmmmmnnn...probably more of them than I realize. Just off the top of my head...
I don't think you can get the 1/32 Birdcage Corsair conversion anymore (and I can't even recall who made it)...or the 1/32 Kfir C2 one (mine is the TacScale one - so is my 1/32 F4-G one...and all my 1/32 TacScale ordnance...) - haven't seen that one for some time.
I also have a bunch of resin 1/32 SJU-5/7 and K-36 ejection seats (Commanders?..) that I haven't seen lately...and a corrected tail for the 1/48 Monogram PBY (I have NO idea how much lead I'm gonna have to put in the nose of my PBY-5A if I actually use it...).
And some OOP sets of generic etched HUD frames and DDI bezels from Technics in 1/32...and 1/48, I think. Oh, yeah - and that set of flaps and slats for the 1/32 Tornado from Paragon...along with most of the upgrades for the 1/32 Hasegawa F/A-18A from Paragon...oops...make that ALL of the upgrades for the 1/32 Hasegawa F/A-18A from Paragon.
And a bunch of Model Technologies etch for stuff I don't even have kits for and probably never will...
...and don't even get me started on my stash of decals, RBF tags, instruction sheets (I think I still have the instruction sheets for every kit I've built since I was about 8 or so...including some Aurora ones), and paper type stuff...can you recommend a good therapist?..
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Rufus
And which brother are you? :-)
-- Chuck Ryan snipped-for-privacy@REMOVEearthlink.net Springfield OH
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Charles Ryan
dunno about the brothers, but i'm having a three dwarf morning. sleepy, dopey and grumpy.
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e
Let me be Frank! (From Franklin, Freddy, and Phineas Freak...the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers)
Doug Wagner
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Doug Wagner

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