Looked at their website yesterday. "Hard copies" are no more. Plug
has been pulled.
These will be missed.
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15 years ago
R.I.P. Wings and Airpower magazines
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15 years ago
But you can still get them here:
We are proud to announce that CHALLENGE PUBLICATIONS of Chatsworth,
California, producers of AIR CLASSICS and WARBIRDS INTERNATIONAL Magazines
will become the world's exclusive distributor for Wings & Airpower back
issues and back issue Gift Sets.
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15 years ago
sad. even though they got thinner and thinner and repeated
much, they were still among the few.
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15 years ago
glas i passed up the offers on my 70's issues. that was
their golden age.
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15 years ago
Now the values can climb on E-bay.
Sorry to hear they're gone now as I really enjoyed the photography.
Sometimes the articles were the only information I had on a type but I
didn't always find the articles well written.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
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My dad started getting them in 1973, I think when they started
publication. I might be wrong about that, but it seems that's when they
started. I picked up my own subscription for a while from 1986 to
90-ish. When my dad passed away, I got the whole she-bang.
So I've got stacks and stacks of the things. Well pawed over.
What I noticed over the years is that the articles were either about lesser and lesser significant types, or they were rehashes of already-covered types. Not a lot of really interesting stuff, in my opinion, that wasn't in older issues.
What I miss are the Wings of Fame... I got all of them, and they were brilliant.
---Stephen
So I've got stacks and stacks of the things. Well pawed over.
What I noticed over the years is that the articles were either about lesser and lesser significant types, or they were rehashes of already-covered types. Not a lot of really interesting stuff, in my opinion, that wasn't in older issues.
What I miss are the Wings of Fame... I got all of them, and they were brilliant.
---Stephen
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Really? I collected these and got all up to and including Volume 20 when I
got a letter from the publisher saying that they had decided to cancel the
product and offering to move me onto AirPower instead.
I was quite annoyed at the time because I had invested quite a lot of money in the collection and thought it unfair that the publisher could simply decide he was going to complete it.
As for prices soaring on eBay. They might eventually but the first thing I noticed was that the publisher sold their stock to budget bookshops. A few weeks after the series had been pulled I could have bought all 20 volumes, brand new in a budget bookshop for £25. I think I had paid closer to £150.
Cheers,
Nigel
I was quite annoyed at the time because I had invested quite a lot of money in the collection and thought it unfair that the publisher could simply decide he was going to complete it.
As for prices soaring on eBay. They might eventually but the first thing I noticed was that the publisher sold their stock to budget bookshops. A few weeks after the series had been pulled I could have bought all 20 volumes, brand new in a budget bookshop for £25. I think I had paid closer to £150.
Cheers,
Nigel
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15 years ago
"Nigel Heather
Had the same experience with some of the auto books from Publications
International Ltd. I could spend $34.95 plus tax at Border's or go down
the lot to Ollie's and get them for $10 each. I now have the complete
set of "Cars of..." and "100 Years of Ford".
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
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15 years ago
Just an aside, including the surprizing hard to find "Cars of the
Sensational 70s"?
Asking because late last year Borders AND Barnes & Noble more or less
had a clearance sale on the other 4 books (that I know of ... 30s,
40s, 50s, 60s) and they were about 12-15 apiece (you still beat that
price).
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Yes, there were copies of that title there. Burned me up because I DID
pay $34.95+tax for that one at Borders.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
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15 years ago
"Mad-Modeller" wrote
Don't bet on it.
In the model railroad world there are two magazines that have been publishing since the 1930s. Guys get all misty about their collections and how these are the "greatest references you could have" and "my most valuable modeling tool". However, no one could provide me an answer as to why such a "valuable" thing could barely be given away at train shows and went begging on Ebay at fifty cents an issue - even with free postage. Through auctions and dealing with the seller directly I bought about 25 years worth for around $105 - and the seller spent $115 to mail them.
I discovered that about 70% of the magazine was advertising, layout tours (similar to reader galleries), or subjects that were no longer relevant, so by judicious use of a razor I was able to reduce a stack of magazines about 17 feet tall to three file drawers of useful articles in folders.
KL
Don't bet on it.
In the model railroad world there are two magazines that have been publishing since the 1930s. Guys get all misty about their collections and how these are the "greatest references you could have" and "my most valuable modeling tool". However, no one could provide me an answer as to why such a "valuable" thing could barely be given away at train shows and went begging on Ebay at fifty cents an issue - even with free postage. Through auctions and dealing with the seller directly I bought about 25 years worth for around $105 - and the seller spent $115 to mail them.
I discovered that about 70% of the magazine was advertising, layout tours (similar to reader galleries), or subjects that were no longer relevant, so by judicious use of a razor I was able to reduce a stack of magazines about 17 feet tall to three file drawers of useful articles in folders.
KL
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15 years ago
I never gotten misty eyed at all about old issues of Model Railroader
& RMC (the 2 founded in 1930s I presume you meant) - I mean they are
moderately interesting to flip through, but certainly a lot of the
modeling techniques & articles are now obsolete (because the materials
used, or the base models, or the details are no longer offered, or
because the once unavailable have-to-scratchbuild models are now
offered everywhere, or because more or less the same article on
weathering wooden structures has been re-written every 5 years, etc..
I'm not saying everything in them is irrelevant, but I usually clip
about 2-3 articles (sometimes just a column which I scan into my
computer, sometimes several pages) per issue nowadays - I guess that
agrees with your magazine reduction ratio.
are ultra-rare or special (of course, most sellers think they are and
set their reserve accordingly - not to mention the ol' extra-high
shipping charges). Once in a while some (individual) seller gets
lucky (maybe eBay stores do better), but man I wish I took advantage
to get rid of old paperbacks when eBay was hopping and you could sell
almost anything for a good price around the turn of the century...
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15 years ago
ooks tend to be dogs on eBay unless they
I dunno, old copies of Air Trails (from the 1930s and 1940s) are
running around $3-5 each, and some of the real old Popular Mechanics,
Mechanix Illustrated and Popular Science are more than garage sale
prices as well. ($3.00 as opposed to maybe 75=A2.
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15 years ago
w and ap were somewhat like that. they have recycled
pictures endlessly and a lot of atricles were re-used. as
solid modeling references, they were about a c-.
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"The Old Man" wrote
Even at double that price you aren't going to put your kid through college by selling them.
KL
Even at double that price you aren't going to put your kid through college by selling them.
KL
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15 years ago
There were two camps on the model RR bboard when I discussed this: Those who
thought I was committing some sort of sacrilege by cutting up a 30-year-old
magazine (*) and those who agreed that something was "worth" only what
somebody would pay for it, supported by stories of how they literally
couldn't give away their old mags and landfilled them instead.
The mags with a good bit of prototype content - RailModel Journal, Mainline Modeler (RIP) and Model Railroading (RIP) command a higher price than the more model oriented MR and RMC, but I wonder if that isn't due to scarcity as much as content. It seems from their annual USPS diclosures that none of these ever had a circulation or more than about 15,000, and RMJ is now down to about 5,000 - 7,500. At their peak in the 1980s MR was printing 125,000 - 150,000 issues a month, IIRC.
(*) It was a magazine, not a book, and my property, not a library's.
KL
The mags with a good bit of prototype content - RailModel Journal, Mainline Modeler (RIP) and Model Railroading (RIP) command a higher price than the more model oriented MR and RMC, but I wonder if that isn't due to scarcity as much as content. It seems from their annual USPS diclosures that none of these ever had a circulation or more than about 15,000, and RMJ is now down to about 5,000 - 7,500. At their peak in the 1980s MR was printing 125,000 - 150,000 issues a month, IIRC.
(*) It was a magazine, not a book, and my property, not a library's.
KL
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15 years ago
I reduced my MR collection in much the same way as I knew they weren't
worth diddly on the market. I bought a lot of them for a quarter a
piece at a small shop in the '80s.
I did sell all of the Mainline Modellers and was particularly surprised
to reap some reward from the few Narrow Gauge Gazettes that I had.
What I'm in a quandary about is the Toy Train Collector mags. They seem
too full of info to just trash but there has been no interest in the few
I tried to E-bay.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
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15 years ago
Heretic! Burn him! The villagers are marching up the mountain with
torches and pitchforks...........oh, wait, it was just a
magazine.........nevermind. Actually I'm seriously thinking of hacking
up my old FSM's to get rid of the drivel and keep the few articles worth
keeping. It's not like I don't have access to original documents in the
genres I model or anything. Anyone know where to get 9" wide by 14" high
binders?
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15 years ago
Office Max? Staples? Office Depot?
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922 {Sig Quotes Removed on Request}
Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922 {Sig Quotes Removed on Request}
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on 5/31/2007 1:40 AM Stephen Bierce said the following:
More than likely.