any basic reason why the USA chose light grey for aircraft undersurfaces
while Germany used light blue? and whatever Japan and Great Britain
any color better than the other?
trying to remain distracted as I see the last of my hopes for any team I
cared about going to the world series going down in flames..... so its
off to lurk at RMS.
thx guys - Craig
"Craig" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
I would think that it is not the color for itself,
it is more some VIPs in the military
deciding to take this or that color for some reason.
Remember: in WWI, von Richthofen choosed *RED* for his Fokker Dr.I,
so that everybody can see and identify him at once !
Some aircrafts have no color at all and show poolished metal,
in order to save weight or for reasons of - pride.
Some carmouflage reasons are there of course:
how to minimize contrast to the heaven -> gray or blue is both good for
how to minimize contrast to the ground -> green or other carmouflage schemes
in most uppersides.
But is has no strong logic:
or why did the old green-brown BUFFs had a WHITE nose ?
Just my thoughts,
the military thought these were the most effective colors for their planes.
during the begining of the war, the USA used olive drab and grey, the
Germans used muliples of greens, greys and so fourth.
Each country had their own colors they thought were effective, but later in
the war a lot of aircraft were'nt camo'ed anymore, B-17's , B-24's, and most
of your fighter planes.
while places like Germany, France, Japan, England and so fourth still used
camo on their planes.
there is a lot of helpful books on this subject, what sucks is trying to
paint some of them,
drop me a line if you ever need any modeling help
There are some real compromises here, and many countries painted planes
depending on what theatre of operations the planes were going to.
For bottom, the idea was, what color would best match the sky.
Actually, since sky is pretty bright, it is hard to match brightness
when sun is higher than plane.
For top of plane, the idea is to hide it from higher flying planes, so
it should blend in with ground. For planes in desert theatres this
called for lighter colors (sand-like colors) than for planes in other
theatres seen against a lot of vegetation. Of course, naval planes
flying over water should look like water from above.
Actually, a LOT of research went into this in major countries, but
selection was made on what would be dominate theatres of operation.
As to what color was chosen depended alot on what different thought or
thesies were bantered about. This was a period of experimentation and a new
area of study really. As for the natural metal finish, this came later only
after air supremecy when camoflauge was no longer necessary. As Jan
mentioned, this save weight, and even more so, time/ cost/ practicality.....
There was a "camouflage" scheme called "Project Yehudi" in which
extremely bright lights were attached to the leading edges of the
wings. The idea was that antisubmarine planes would come out of the
sun while attacking U-boats on the surface. The U-boats wouldn't see
them until it was too late to crash-dive.
Yes, and similar schemes were being worked on in seventies and eighties-
I worked on one. Jet intakes look very black against sky, and some jets
of the era had very large intakes, such as F-4. AF looked at adding
lights in intakes to make incoming attack planes less visible.
While stealth is important, in close attack situation there are still
many individual SAM systems relying on optical sighting. So hiding
aircraft against sky is still important today.
Alexander Arnakis wrote:
Also, bombers flew at high altitudes where radar became more important
than vision as far as detecting planes. If you knew the planes were
there, and approximately where, it is much easier to see them and aim at
them. So bombers could be made aluminum even before fighters used in
> As to what color was chosen depended alot on what different thought or
> thesies were bantered about. This was a period of experimentation and a new
> area of study really. As for the natural metal finish, this came later only
> after air supremecy when camoflauge was no longer necessary. As Jan
> mentioned, this save weight, and even more so, time/ cost/ practicality.....