Mating Problem with Dovetails

Although I am a newcomer to Solidworks, I have mated hundreds of different parts to one another in 50 and 60 part assemblies, without many problems. For some reason, that now shatters my confidence, I am unable to assemble a simple male dovetail to a simple female dovetail. Is there an unknown factor involving dovetails that I am missing? I am attempting to mate a 60 degree male (slide) part, to a 60 degree female (housing) part and without any success at all. I am attempting to mate the back flat face with back flat face , and beveled male slide to same bevel female housing, I have tried in different sequences with same result. I would appreciate any help that would be offered. Erika

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Erika Layne
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I assume that the dovetail side are at different angles. Solidworks doesn't know the term "dovetail", only faces, points, planes, edges, etc. See if you can mate a face of the female dovetail to a point or edge on the male dovetails face that you attempted to mate. If it does mate, then check your sketches ensuring the angles are the same.

Keith

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Keith Streich

Erica,

As Keith pointed out, check that the angles are the same. To add to this, they must be EXACTLY the same out to 8 decimal places. If they aren't Solidworks (or any other similar program) can't resolve it.

Mark

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MM

Erika,

I use a dovetail slide in an optical assembly and found that SWX chokes on the two plane-to-plane mates.

Try this:

Make a plane-to-plane mate between the "60 degree" beveled faces. Then make a coincident mate between the "flat" plane of the housing (female dovetail) and the **EDGE** of the slide (male dovetail) where the "60-degree" and "flat" faces of the slide intersect (assuming a sharp edge).

Now the slide is constrained (I wish SW Corp would call them constraints instead of mates!) in 5 DOF, with only the "sliding" direction free. You can drag the slide with your cursor only along its direction of travel, or you can add a distance mate of a point on the slide to an end face on the housing to finish the job.

HTH, Art

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Art Woodbury

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Erika Layne

Why bother trying to mate the dovetails at all?

  1. In the real world and in your model the male and female parts will never exactly be line to line.
  2. If you try to mate the angled portions there is inherent ambiguity in where the dovetails are with respect to each other based on the roundoff error in the angles.

So instead of mating the angled portions, create a centerline plane on the male and female portions and mate that to center the two to each other. Then you will be using three orthogonal mates to locate the feature.

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TOP

My model is an IGES download from a vendor. After checking, I found the two angles were in error at the 3rd & 4th decimal points (which I rarely have displayed), enough to cause the problem.

Keith and Mark are right about having the angles exactly the same. In that case the two plane-to-plane mates work.

From a kinematic standpoint they shouldn't work, because each one consumes 3 degrees of freedom, leaving a "7th" DOF (which doesn't exist) to control sliding motion. I suppose that SWX ignores the conflict when the angles match exactly, and only constrains 5 DOF.

Art

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Art Woodbury

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