New Ship in Bottle

Mr. Me,

What MoBo are you running?

Starting to approach AMD 64 speeds.

What is the absolute fastest you can do SIB in? Anywhere near 18 sec.?

P,

Regardless, The intel "still" has to run at nearly twice the AMD64 clockspeed in order to get there.

Mark

Is it just me, or have the processor speed wars by Intel and AMD cooled down of late?

AnandTech had this to say, and it is scary for a SW user:

"With 2004 quickly coming to a close, we can't help but wonder if this will be the last year for the foreseeable future where we will have a processor speed war to talk about. With 2005 destined to be the year of multiple cores, and with dual core solutions from both AMD and Intel guaranteed to run at lower clock speeds than present day single core chips, are the great MHz and GHz races of years past on hiatus for a while?"

If the next speed increase improvements are going to come from multiprocessing we, the SW community, are going to be left in the cold unless SW64 comes out soon. SW is going to have to backtrack on 4 or 5 years of 3-5% speed decreases as well. That would be a 20% improvement in performance right there.

Paul,

Yea, I wouldn't call it a truce, or even a cease fire, but the war has cooled. Part of the reason is probably because both sides a suffering from the expense of maintaining it. When it costs multi tens of millions of $$$ in new equipment and processes, just to squeeze out a little more speed, the ROI probably "doesn't". At least not in the avaerage life of the latest/greatest chip.

With 2005, I've measured a 7-8% decrease in feature/rebuild speed compared to 2004. On the flip side, I've also noticed about a 50% increase in OpenGL performance. This "could" be encouraging. It means they've taken the time to at least optimize something. Maybe they'll carry this through to the rest of the program.

SW (and every other software company) has been relying on new hardware to cover up slapdash, sloppy, slow, code. They're gonna have to start doing things a little different for a while. At least until Moore's Law is re-instated.

Regards

Mark

Its 90 nanometer rules that are killing them. It is a much more difficult process. And they are nearing the end of the road.

It is because of hardware not keeping up to the software that we see this slowdown. TIC

Intel SE7525GP2

Sorry for the late response but I have not been on this group in a while.

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