Are 1x2s too small?

"Greg G. F." wrote in news:5a9f0c9a-5fd7-4087-adff- snipped-for-privacy@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

I decided to go with 1x4s. Even with good structure design, sometimes you just can't beat mass to handle whatever life throws at it. Plus, it gives me an easy way to attach a "cup rail" and fascia when I get to that part.

The legs are 1x2s and are just beautiful. They give me a place to easily run braces between sets of legs, and it looks really nice.

One last parting thought: I should have gotten the big box of screws.

Puckdropper

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And hopefully square drive instead of Phillips.

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Steve Caple

"Square dive"?

Please! "Robertson" head, the name they have in the country of their invention, Canada. "Robertson's" and *the* most popular screw in Canada and have been for donkey's years, at least back into the 1940 or earlier.

IIRC, Ford Motor company wanted to use them but also wanted to become the patent holder but Mr. Robertson, the inventor, refused to sell them the patent.

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Roger T.

On 9/27/2008 10:36 AM Steve Caple spake thus:

Amen to that. Someday I'm going to throw out every goddamn Phillips bit I have.

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David Nebenzahl

We Canadians have known that since the 1910s. :-)

They were "invented" in 1908, so you Americans and the rest of the world are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind the times when it comes to screwing. ;-)

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Roger T.

And you have been waiting for years for a chance to use that line!!!!! Chuck D.

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Charles Davis

Guilty!

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Roger T.

Do you mean that popular drink made from vodka and from milk of magnesia... the Phillips Screwdriver?!

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video guy - www.locoworks.com

Hunh? Ralph Nader's nightclub?

Yes, I know, and I wish Robertson had been able to find a US manufacturer and perhaps been a little more flexible in licensing, for all our sakes, although I can't begrudge him not wanting anything to do with that notorious racist and anti-semite in Dearborn. But I was just using a name US members would find more descriptive, since the meaning of square drive should be obvious to Canadians, Brits, and others, while "Robertson head" would confuse Americans who hadn't read Witold Rybczynski's "One Good Turn: A Natural History of the Screwdriver and the Screw". The Robertson head screw is far superior to almost all other drive systems, certainly those in common use.

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Steve Caple

Somehow, I feel there is a subliminal message that the Canadians and particularly Mr. Robertson are of the opinion that they and he should have a patent on screwing..or at least the best way. :).

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Whodunnit

Steve Caple wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@40tude.net:

I went with Phillips. They work for me, and I have a relatively low failure rate using them, about 1 in 50 leave the head slighly distorted. Complete failure (broken head, head stripped so it won't turn) is about 1 in 1000. With a good #2 Phillips bit, you'll be able to put quite a few screws in before you strip one.

I've not used square head (you know, the Canadian-invented Robertson head made by Mr. Robertson in Canada) screws extensively enough to do the comparison, but I'm sure the bigger factors in good screwing are the bit, screw driver, operator, and screw composition.

Sometimes it's better to be stanardized than to always use the best tool for the job.

Puckdropper

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Puckdropper

Sometimes we need to screw the standard and move on.

Greg.P.

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Greg.Procter

In my experience screw composition and drive type are more important than the bit - unless it's a typical Phillips bit that becomes badly buggered from the inevitable cam-outs. Cam-outs are almost unheard of with square drive screws (most often seen here in Disney-land as "deck screws").

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Steve Caple

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