ATSF & SP Steam

Both RRs had 0-8-0's. ATSF had:

48 in 2 classes converted circa 1927-8 from 1901 vintage 2-6-0's. 69 in several classes converted from about 1925 thru 1936 from various groups of 2-8-0's mostly dating from the late 1890's thru 1902. Almost all were scrapped or sold in the early 1950's. SP had: 7 acquired from the EP&SW in 1924. These were built in the late 1890's and I believe were converted from other types. 8 built in the SP Sacramento Shops in the 1930's using boilers from scrapped 4-4-2's. 12 built in the SP Houston Shops in 1930 using boilers from scrapped 2-6-6-2's. All SP 0-8-0's were scrapped by 1958. (Note that neither ATSF or SP had USRA 0-8-0's like the P2K model.) I believe all were used primarily as yard switchers. Geezer

Matt, Yes.........The AT&SF had lots of them....... Here are the AT&SF Steam Locomotive Assignments for Jan.1 1950. The

0-8-0s were scattered all around From the AT&SF all time steam roster you will see that 0-8-0s were in use from the early 1900s through the early 1950s Here is a drawing with dimensions and measurements of the 0-8-0 Class 2535. Here is a picture of #566 and #574 I love the proportions and look of these. There has probably been a brass model of these types but I've never seen one. I don't have as many SP links handy but here is a roster with dates for their 0-8-0s. 0-8-0s would dominantly be used for yard switching however I'm sure one could find situations where they were used on local type freights or on branch lines. Probably someone can even find a instance where they even pulled a passenger train. Bruce

An 0-8-0 as assigned power on a passenger train- on a class-1 like the SP?

THAT I would like to see.

Pregnant Passenger: "Conductor, how much longer 'till we get to New Orleans? I think I might go into labor pretty soon. It's getting close to time.

Conductor: "If you're that close to having your baby, why did you get on the train?"

Passenger: "I wasn't pregnant when I got on the train." Froggy,

Froggy replied:

*** Pregnant Passenger: "Conductor, how much longer 'till we get to New Orleans? I think I might go into labor pretty soon. It's getting close to time. Conductor: "If you're that close to having your baby, why did you get on the train?" Passenger: "I wasn't pregnant when I got on the train."

----------------------------------------------------- Great! Thanks, Froggy.

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Froggy, I loved the joke. Thanks for the laugh.

Thanks everyone for your help. The links and the information are terrific!!!

Sincerely, Matt

I don't know whether US railroads did it, but it *wasn't* uncommon elsewhere in the world to assign 0-8-0s for use on passenger trains.

I am going to bend the rules by lettering the P2K w/ Santa Fe markings. I like this engine too much to let it go. It runs beautifully, and it looks fantastic. I wish it were the perfect fit. That would be my preference.

Thanks for your consistently excellent replies. I always enjoy reading your posts.

Sincerely, Matt

Maybe not, but it was extremely uncommon here in the US. I know that in the Northeast there were commuter trains that used small tank engines, but, to the best of my memory these all had leading and trailing trucks, or at least leading trucks.

Froggy,

Yeah, I thought that would be the case.