Has anyone ever made a garden train capable of carrying loads? I'm
thinking something that could pick up beer at a fridge (and yes, an
automated method of loading the train), and bring the beer to the
poolside. Not that I have the time or money to do this right now, but
I'm just curious if it could be done. BTW -- How much load can a G-
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:46:20 -0800 (PST), I said, "Pick a card, any
These are serious engineering questions that must be dealt with in
1. Beer is heavy for a train so put it very near the engine. Pulling
empty cars and then a heavy load followed by empty cars makes
negotiation of curves tricky.
2. Dampen the delivery of the beer to the load car to minimize
foaming, breaking of bottles or denting of cans.
3. Biological beer delivery is also possible and highly recommended.
4. Security along the track is paramount. Imagine your neighbor
looking over the hedge. Could be disaster.
5. Assuming you have the ability to do the logistics of loading the
train without knocking it off the rails, there remains a question of
need. A small bar fridge located in the back yard is much easier.
Now, about recycling the beer later. No advice on delivering a
urinal comes to mind.
A gondola or logging wagon should have no problem carrying a can of
beer, although a can rolling down a 45 degree ramp from the top of a
fridge would probably send the rolling stock flying!
If you want spirits perhaps an LGB tank wagon with operating spigot
would be better than trying to load a large bottle onto a wagon.
The load is dependant on the usual railway factors of loco tractive
effort, curve radius and gradient. However, a little LGB 0-4-0 should
have no trouble in pulling a couple of wagons with a beer can each.
If the worst came to the worst you'd just have to operate a regular
service, or a big Diseasel with a heavy drag, or an Express service. You
might even need a big yard by the pool to hold all the loaded wagons, or
perhaps you'll want to run a "just in time" service.
It strikes me that you're going to need thermos wagons to keep the cans
cool if you need the big railway yard, plus ice wagons and tippers to
take the empties away.
This is the sort of project I could get enthusiastic about!
I had thought about carrying produce in from the garden, but whatever
floats your boat. You could use insulated tank cars to transfer your
beer in. An automated system would stop each car under the fill spout,
fill the car, and then fill it. The train would then come out to where
you are, and stop. You'd put your glass under the tank car, and press
the release lever. Your glass then fills, and the train departs (or
pulls the next car over the unloading dock.)
It'd work for other things too... Coffee and teas might travel better by
virtue of being uncarbonated.
Oh, and metal wheels are going to be a must. You want as much weight
down low as possible. Derailments involving perishable and hazardous
liquids are to be avoided!
Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
A recent Model railroader magazine review of a G-guage locomotive (January
2008) indicated that the average G- locomotive has a 20-ounce horizontal
drawbar pull at wheel slip. That should be adeqauete to carry a gondola of
your favorite beverage, along with ice.
And some locos are much higher than that -- the particular loco reviewed in
that article (Aristo-Craft Trains 1:29 E8 diesel) had a 48-ounce drawbar
Whitefish Bay, Wis.
On the old Jackie Gleason show (Where the honeymooners started as one of the
acts) Jackie did a character called Reginald van Gleason a wealthy black top
hat and cape type who drank too much. In the Christmas show one year he has
his Lionel Train deliver a cocktail to him from across the room and
remarks - "Drinks go swell with Lionel"
I'll bet the Lionel wasn't running after him to get the rights to use
that slogan in their advertising.
Val Kraut wrote:
"On the old Jackie Gleason show (Where the honeymooners started as one
of the acts) Jackie did a character called Reginald van Gleason a
wealthy black top hat and cape type who drank too much. In the
Christmas show one year he has > his Lionel Train deliver a cocktail
to him from across the room and remarks - "Drinks go swell with
Fantastic, that character is classic. Probably the best character short of
Ralph Kramden. I love the skit where RVG installs a moon rocket in his
mansion but as soon as his girfriend finds out and decides they should blast
off to start a new life on the moon and he could get a job there and settle
down, he immediately sticks her in the rocket alone and blasts her off.
"> Fantastic, that character is classic. Probably the best character short
He had a few classics - I used to love Charlie Bratten - he comes into the
bar sees Clem Finch (Art Carney) eating something and starts describes his
food as a Toupee with eyeballs floating down the East River. Clem gets ill
and leaves - Charlie finishes it. Other favorite - RVG says to his mother
"o Boy you are FAT!
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