Greenberg used to come to LI twice a year. Now their listings don't include any New York State engagements at all. I don't see any of the others coming to NY either. Anybody know why? Did we tax them to death?
Rob
Thanks Rob--but my concern was why the big national show chains like Greenberg don't come to NY anymore.
We had the Greenberg shows, and some other national shows, but the club shows upstate - especially TTCS & TTOS, by far exceed the Greenberg & similar shows in overall quality - attendance, scope, prices. The national shows usually seemed to comprise a bunch of tired merchants with shopworn goods who really came across as being sick of "the grind". The admission fees were too expensive, too.
TTCS has had shows in interesting locations too, Utica's Union Station in a perennial favorite (1/15/2006 this year), Niagara Falls Convention Center(Now a Casino, though), Finger Lakes Racing/Gaming, Batavia Downs, the Founder's Picnic event was even held at Enchanted Forest/Water Safari and the adjacent Water's Edge Hotel.
Anyone in the area should try to get to one or more of these shows to check them out.
Rob
Rob - Historically, hobbyists went to the major train shows for the bargins they offered, as well as the wide selection of often non-commercial sellers that used to populate those shows.
Beginning maybe 8-10 years ago the bargins started to dry up and retail prices often took their place (hobbyists also found that much better buys could thereafter be gotten on eBay or from other on-line sellers). Most of the little-guy sellers at the shows eventually got pushed out by the increasing table prices and the need to collect and report sales taxes. Likewise, attendance fees rose. At least in western New England and southeastern NY this served to kill off attendance and after a few shows that actually lost money (I saw one where the dealers outnumbered the total attendance for the day!), the big national shows packed up their tents never to return.
CNJ999
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