Well, you got the "air tanks" part right. :-)
The air tanks' placement was usually a result of being displaced from their
normal underframe location when the ordering railroad specified a large(r) fuel
tank and water tank, for those engines equipped with a steam generator.
However, railroads could also specify how they wanted their engines, so it was
entirely possible for a given locomotive to have a steam generator, but have
the air tanks located in their "normal" locations beneath the frame.
Thanks, Paul! That made my day! So that's why GE locomotives were called
We here over in Germany have U-Boats too. They were built in Romania
during Eastern Block times, a few are still running. Here the naming was
induced be the row of bullseye windows on them. See
Bill's Railroad Empire
N Scale Model Railroad:
That's very true. Southern Pacific had eleven passenger GP9's working
the San Francisco peninsula commute operation. They were 3000-3003
(NO torpedo tubes, but WITH dynamic brakes), 3004-3007 (WITH tubes, no
d/b), and 3008-3010 (no tubes, with d/b).
Yes, the web page (click "Series 119" -> "Steckbrief" -> "119 001 - 119 100"
-> "119 001 - 119 010" -> "119 001") gives as data for the first one:
Built in 1976, accepted on January 21, 1977 and built at "23. August" in
Bukarest (German name of the capital of Romania).
The Eastern Block had a strict separation which of its members had to
provide which products. So for rail vehicles there were separate producers
for trams, electric locos, shunting diesels, light diesels, heavy diesels,
passenger cars, box cars, refrigeration cars, tank cars, ... you name it.
Generally, they were not really behind in engineering for such basic things.
More complicated parts were either license built from western stuff (here:
the engine licensed from MTU) or unlicesed ("industrial espionage"). The
biggest problem was the general unavailability of parts for maintenance,
because you couldn't plan all defects some years in advance.
Very interesting. I was born just two weeks before they were accepted (!)
and even though my father has worked for the railways all his life, I had no
idea these things even existed, even more that they were built in Romania!
Thank you for sharing this information with me. I will ask my father and see
if he knows anything about these boats. Thanks again.
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No, it was because of the "U" in the model designation, i.e.: U25C
(Universal, 2500hp, C-C). But then you knew that.
True. The New Haven had 30 GP9's with dynamics and steam gen., and the
air tanks were mounted under the frame as normal. However, within 6 months
of delivery, the NH added walkway water tanks right behind the cab to add
steam gen. capacity.
Paul A. Cutler III
Weather Or No Go New Haven
The Boston & Maine GP-7's had steam generators, no D/B , water tanks and air
tanks under the frameand many had square hong hood ends to contain passenger
train lighting gear.
T> Some gp7 and gp9 prototypes had torpedo tubes and some didn't. What were
Paul, thanks for sharing that....I never realized that the NH's 30
units were delivered as somewhat "normal" looking GP9's and modified.
I thought they came with that extended walkway as did LIRR's (and