All this talk of the newsgroup has led me to one question ! (probably a
I was first introduced to the NG back in 1996 while at uni. A chance email
from Peter Forbes made me aware of it but I could never work out how to
access it! In 1997 I bought my own computer for uni work and my computer
science flatmate hooked me up to the NG's and I haven't looked back!
So who originally set up uk.rec.engines.stationary and when ??! I am aware
of usenet etc, but not too hot on the subject so maybe someone could
enlighten me! I have a sneaky suspicion Peter Forbes was behind it all ??
Hopefully someone can provide the answer!
Stationary Engines Scotland
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:06:46 +0000 (UTC), "David McC"
Not me, I think you will find that George Hendry set it up originally.
I always recommend the NG to anyone remotely interested in engine stuff, and
over the years it has got much better, with a more consistent level of posting
compared with the early days when two a week was the norm.
Peter & Rita Forbes
Engine pages for preservation info:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:00:36 +0000, Peter A Forbes
27th October 1997
groups.google.com seems to have postings from November '97 and George
Hendry was certainly involved in the charter, if not doing the actual
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
Thanks, makes interesting reading on how the group was formed.
George, any comments from yourself on how you feel the NG has progressed in
the past 6 years and the initial inspiration for actually requesting the
formation of this NG ?
Stationary Engines Scotland
David and Gentlemen,
Yes I have to confess it was me.
For a while I had been a reader (dare I say lurker) on the US mailing
list but found that the sense of humour, tangent hopping and pure
irrelevance of a great deal of the postings meant that I spent more time
sorting the wheat from the chaff than reading anything worthwhile. There
was also very little content relevant to British Engines.
Six years ago, because of the history of the Internet, most newsgroups
and mailing lists were US inspired and from chatting to friends it was
felt that something should be done to redress this balance.
So a request was made to set up u.r.e-s. This was received quite well
even by some of our US colleagues and a small number of us on this side
of the pond. It was (after some discussion about the name and where best
to fit it into the UK hierarchy) soon able to be fast tracked to
completion. I think by failing memory it actually took between three and
The newsgroup started off very slowly but was used by the early
supporters whilst it gained momentum. I am deeply grateful to those
people who helped with support and by using the newsgroup in the early
Since then of course it has grown as you are all aware and now provides
a very good basis for the interchange of ideas and information for the
hobby as a whole. I think that it now provides more information than
some of the subscription publications available, for the most part
because it is instant and doesn't take two months for a reply.
I was only the proposer, the success of the newsgroup is down purely to
you the users and as this is a non moderated group the control is down
purely to everyone who contributes. This has worked extremely well for
the most part and shows what a jolly nice bunch of guys you are.
I do consider the group to be 'my baby' however and take a great
interest in its development and will occasionally 'have a go' if I think
that it is being abused as can be seen by 'language' and 'binary'
postings over recent months.
I do believe that the group should evolve however and as for the most
part people are changing to broadband perhaps it is time to consider a
change to the charter to allow the posting of a regulated size of
picture if it does not stop more ISP's from carrying the group. Perhaps
this could be the source of another thread - How can the newsgroup
Sorry to have gone on for so long Gents.
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