James Mays Top Toys

This programme was on BBC2 on Wednesday night, I missed it but caught the last few minutes. Looks like it was a good show, sorry I missed it

He had a Hornby train set (yes a proper train set, not a model railway). This seemed to be on a board only about three or three and a half feet wide by about eight feet long.

In N everything new in British outline requires at least 10.5 inch radius curves, so for a single track loop you need a minimum 23 inches. Continental stuff will happily make it round 7.5 inch radius curves (obviously these should be hidden) and also features impressive very close coupling, but it costs a lot.

Given that the Hornby stuff made it on what looks like a three foot wide board I might consider changing scales to OO get the benefit of improved running. I was thinking of On16.5 industrial outside. An experimental board of painted marine ply with a topping of 'insertion jointing' (used for insertion between concrete building sections) has been sitting outside for three or four years now and seems okay.

I should be settling down in the next few months - If I make wardrobes four feet high I can run the layout on top and use the 'wardrobes' to carry the return curves.

What does the group suggest is a realistic minimum radius for current (and future) OO scale..

Mike

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Mike
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6 ft but If you are running On 16.5 0-4-0 then you could go down to 12 "
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Trev

On16.5 it is then, I had wanted a Hymek or two, there again there is that thing on the Ffestiniog

Regards

Mike

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Mike

In message , snipped-for-privacy@notigg.not.no writes

I only saw the last few minutes of this also, but one thing I did see was that he bought something at an auction, took it out of the box and threw the box away. To me this was exceedingly daft, as he could easily have sold the empty box on ebay and easily recovered the cost of his purchase.

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Jane Sullivan

snipped-for-privacy@notigg.not.no wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

The thing is RTR will run on much tighter radii (as you know), a trick I've employed on my garage layout is to hide 3 out of the 4 "corners" and lay them on an about 2' radius, freeing up lots of space. Only the 4th scenic corner has a space consuming large radius curve.

Just something to think about.

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Chris Wilson

Jane Sullivan wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk:

I saw that as well but thought "good for him", everything going at a scale

240 mph forwards and backwards, crashing in to the the bridge, looping over points and all the while 4 grown men couldn't have been dragged away by wild horses.
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Chris Wilson

Yeah, but I think he was purposely trying to piss off the collectors. Earlier in the programme he met a guy who would only buy "factory fresh" unused models and made comments about how sad guys like this were, as he thought that the trains were meant to be played with.

It was a good programme and it was nice to see model trains not being portrayed as the hobby of sad losers (apart from collectors!)for a change.

Fred X

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Fred X

A friend bought an Aurora plastic kit of a space craft, the shop keeper was astonished that he planned to make the kit as it was 'worth more' as an unopened box. Thing is the box was in some kind of shrink wrap plastic, with a bit of ingenuity he could remove the kit, replace the innards of the box with old scraps of sprue, re-wrap it and it could carry on entertaining collectors whilst still fulfilling its intended purpose. Not that he did this of course . . .

Mike

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Mike

It was a Hornby-Dublo 'Barnstaple', that 'Rolls-Royce' of a model at £5 15/- . I've always wished I had one of those boxes for my example!

As a theatrical gesture it was a bit of fun, but there was some thought put by Meccano into the experience of receiving and revealing a brand-new loco in its box, so I regretted he showed so little sensitivity for that aspect. Maybe in his upbringing, he didn't need to invest so much in _anticipation_ as some of us :)

Cheers, Francis K.

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Francis Knight

Maybe I Blinked but I thought the set he purchased at the Auction was a complete Triang set. It featured a Loco , two of those car carriers that ISTR BR only used briefly and possibly a Brake van. Super 4 track and minic cars ( not electric ones from the Minic motorways) . I had one of those car carriers. I remember one of the cars being an A40 Farina but cannot remember the others. possibly Ford Anglias but it was a while ago. Nephew makes use of it now. The cars have long gone so it has become a sheep carrier because he has seen a picture of one in Australia and it looks close enough. Don't tell the rivet counters though, Last seen on the Under the Computer desk Branch behind a 08. This Branch has not had parliamentary approval and will be short lived. The 9 year old MD intends to get over this problem by moving to Gran and Grandads 100 miles away as they have plenty of room .That's what I was told when I took him to Warley.Gran was unaware of this when I mentioned it. It's taken her 40 years to recover from when l was there and erecting overhead by nailing copper wire under the dining room table and chairs. Well she did buy me the EM2 and then decided the Triang catenery was too much clutter to be bothered with. I just wanted it too look right with sparks from the Panto. G.Harman

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g.harman

Well as long as no one ever opens the box it seems a harmless thing to do. What you don't know can't hurt you. :)

Fred X

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Fred X

Maybe you did. As an extra wind-up he bought a separate boxed loco. He removed this from a red, lidded, loco-sized box at the cashiers' desk and gave them the box to throw in their rubbish bin. The loco was a compact-looking Pacific with smoke deflectors. Not many fit that description!

Oh, and presumably _our_ money was being spent by the BBC!

Cheers, Francis K.

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Francis Knight

Of course, the whole auction could have been staged; also, we didn't actually see any boxes destroyed. The Triang set didn't look pristine when bought. Maybe it was later sold on Ebay at a profit...

(I downloaded the program as a bit torrent.)

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MartinS

Why not have a single 00 freight only line which runs out of a tunnel (fiddle yard) along one edge of the board and into a small yard, shared by the narrow narrow gauge which occupies most of the board. That way you could have a daily freight working by a Hymek, especially if the narrow gauge was a china clay works system in SW England.

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crazy_horse_12002

I hated that bit. It reinforced the widely held stereotype image of adult railway modellers as being overgrown kids who like playing with toy trains.

(kim)

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kim

Yeah, I know, it's bloody disgraceful that they were showing people enjoying themselves with the zest of youth. It would have been much better showing them sitting in a kitchen counting the spokes on a Dogfish brake handle and explaining to the TV audience how this was really, really, important.....

Cheers, Steve

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Steve W

Well said!

MBQ

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manatbandq

Perhaps the clue was in the title of the program.

MBQ

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manatbandq

Not strictly authentic as Hymeks rarely ran west of Newton Abbot and almost never in Cornwall. A Western, Warship or a North British Type 2 would be a typical china clay loco.

Andy

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Andy Kirkham

Fairly sure that they appeared on the clay workings to Marland and Meeth in North Devon on occasions. Strictly speaking that was the higher quality Ball clay rather than China clay but the same type of Hooded wagon was used.

G.Harman

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g.harman

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