OT: PROM: BBC2, 7.00pm

In message , Ian J. writes

An ex-GWR loco would have done it with no problems.

Just as long as there's a Stanier around to give the GWR loco a tow when it breaks down :o)

Perhaps the 'National Rail Museum' should be retitled the 'North Eastern Railway Museum'.

(kim)

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Preferably a Black Five.

"You know it makes sense!"

Out of interest could anyone remind me where Sir William learnt his trade and under whom?

"There's the GWR way and then there's the wrong way". :-)

But seeing as Stanier was Swindon trained, and introduced many GW design practices to the LMS, surely thats the same thing?

John

They had the best possible rescue loco to hand - 47798!

If he'd remained at Swindon his career would have stagnated along with his designs. The freedom he gained at Crewe gave him the opportunity to try out new ideas.

(kim)

Well exactly. I mean, can you imagine Gods Woeful Railway daring to turn out something like a Duchess? And where would his very impressie Black Fives, 2-6-4ts etc have fitted in? They would all have had a Standard Swindon Boiler!

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Hey! I was going to say all that! And I would have added "with Swindon's idea of superheat: a steam-warmer!" to the last sentence.

In message , David Jackson may have written...

Or indeed more akin to a hot water bottle..... :-))

Thanks for the nod or I would have missed it.

In that montage of clips representing trains to the seaside etc was that a glimpse of a tavern car on the train behind the Southern Pacific?

For the young who may have never heard of them a tavern car was another of Mr Bulleids exotic creations. An almost windowless coach with a pub like interior and a livery which had brickwork painted on the lower panels. they also had individual pub like names .

A generation or two later the Wessex electrics harked back to this with the buffet cars having names and the snug. At least these have some windows. I wonder if some one on the Southern did have a long memory? G.Harman

Back in the 1970s (after the UA Turbos had bit the dust), CN ran "Bistro" cars in its Toronto-Montreal Rapido express. Converted from baggage cars, they were equipped with a bar and a piano. Many patrons partied the whole 4-hour trip in the Bistro.