Re: Dan Dare...

It seems that there is some confusion here between "scale" and "gauge".

Scale is the ratio of the model's size to the prototype. Gauge is the distance between the rails.

In message , Ryan Breai writes

The track gauge was originally 5/8 inch, being half of the then O gauge, which was 1 1/4 inch. In the USA, O scale is 1:48 ratio on 1 1/4 inch gauge track to this day.

Actually, EM stands for "Eighteen Millimetres", because the gauge was 18 mm. until recently (the last 20 years or so) when it was widened to 18.2 mm. There was an experimental bunch in Manchester who produced EEM (Eighteen point Eight Millimetre) stuff (you can work out what the gauge was) just prior to the introduction of P4.

If you're going to quote the gauge for OO to 2 decimal places, then you should do the same for HO.

At 3.5 mm to the foot, HO gauge is 16.48 mm. (16.47917 mm.) At 1:87 scale (as used in the USA) HO gauge is 16.50 mm. (16.49540 mm.) at 1.87.1 scale (as used in Europe) HO gauge is 16.48 mm. (16.47646 mm.)

In the USA, OO gauge is 19 mm.

No. P4 is Protofour, which may have derived from "Protoypical 4mm" but that's not what it's an abbreviation of.

As you can see from my sig, I model in OO. That's because my model is supposed to be impressionistic, i.e. it does not have to be accurate to the umpteenth decimal place, which is impossible anyway.

The whole idea of modelling, of any sort, is to help you relax and get rid of the stresses of modern life. In that respect, it is similar to amateur radio.

Hi John,

"Ryan Breai" , or Gareth as is his real name, is just a troll trying to create argument and spoil another NG- as he tries to do in uk.radio.amateur.

I suggest you just ignore him.

As you have corrected him you will no doubt become a target for his posts. Again I suggest you ignore him.

There aint arf been some clever barstards (Ian Dury)

A scurrilous, and untrue assertion.

I leave the reader to judge which posting might be considered to be a troll; my original cross-posting to refer a model railway matter to greater experts, or Mr.Reay's irrelevant and gratuitous outburst below?

Is it a technical query that spoils newsgroups, or an insulting and unnecessary tirade as has come from Mr.Reay below?

One wonders why Mr.Reay exhorts you to ignore me, when he himself does not do so? A day does not pass without some unprompted insult directed to me from him, and his outburst below is true-to-form. I am sorry that the model railways newsgroup has been sullied by his obsession with me. I did not intend it.

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The only part of my original post which might in any way be misinterpreted as mischievous is my reference to modellers in other groups. As I myself engage both in the precision modelling that is "N" Gauge, and in the miniature engineering that is 5" gauge, and not in what are essentially toy derivatives in the HO/OO/EM/P4 areas, I cannot see that my remarks could be interpreted as anything other than "professional" rivalry, and certainly not a troll.

uk.radio.amateur.

John,

Watch this one - a known troll on other uk newsgroups with his name being various anagrams of the letters in 'Ryan Breai' to fool kill files

Usually posts through

NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-0-2.glou-a-1.access.uk.tiscali.com

but I've seen him come through others.

Follow up set to this newsgroup.

Jim.

Reasons to be cheerful, part one. (Ian Dury)

Yet again, your apparent inability to edit properly obscures the debate.

Please learn to intersperse your answers between the points made in the post you are replying to. It is simple and easy to do, but your replies are formulated in such a manner as to appear rushed, thoughtless, and inconsiderate. They certainly make things difficult to follow.

I have responded to you in this thread quite unemotionally and in careful measured and civil tones. HTH

"Ryan Breai, village idiot" scrawled drunkenly in message news:3fc098a5$1 snipped-for-privacy@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...

I don't recall ever seeing Brian using sock puppet anagrams of 'Gareth Alun Evans' in a botched attempt at anonymity. I ask, therefore, who is obsessed with whom? (_!_)

OT perhaps but relevant to the gist of the thread - I remember a Welsh chap telling me about the terrorist raid on Munich airport. Apparently the Welsh rugby supporters were making their weary way home following a splendid victory at the time. Amidst all the deranged loonies firing guns and chucking grenades, terrified passengers throwing themselves flat and startled policemen charging about there was a lone drunk welshman standing up bellowing at the top of his voice. . . Fer crissaked man, its only a game!

When has rugby ever been played in Germany?

When did the Welsh last win?

G1ITV

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When indeed!

Were not WW1 and WW2 won on the turf of the great English playing fields?

Every winter weekend since since W.W.II at least I would think. First in POW camps, later by the BOAR. I don't know if the Germans played it but Brits played it there for a long period.

vy 73

Andy, M1EBV