Not many images left that I need to identify, so will give it a break after
Ironical that I was photographing this very locomotive shunting some Mk1s at
Doncaster on Friday evening. 48151 is preserved and has a mainline ticket -
Friday's images are on the 2003 page of my
the 8F is pictured here
during its stint in regular BR service, sometime in the mid 1960s I suspect
if the smokebox embellishments are anything to go by. Warning flashes are
fixed and the upper lamp bracket has been lowered.
Again I have no idea on location. Can anyone help?
"Jim Guthrie" wrote
I'm not so sure. 48151 was allocated as follows:-
1961 41D - Canklow
1963 41E - Staveley (Barrow Hill)
1965 8A - Edge Hill
1967 8E - Northwich
so I suspect we're probably looking at the Merseyside or Cheshire areas.
What are the wagons? Didn't stuff like that work to Bidston or that area?
Never mind that, what's all this about?
"The Flying Scotsman"
The world's most famous steam locomotive. Built by London and North
Eastern Railway in 1923 as the first express passenger locomotive.
Is it the most famous steam locomotive? :-)
Has a look of Northwich to me but can't convince myself ... not enough to go
on with my limited knowledge of the area ..
Don't think it is Merseyside ..
Certainly not on the Wirral and don;t think it's on Liverpool .
Not Chester either - no 4 track section like this - i.e. plain line with no
There is a photo of 48141 on a Northwich - Shawfield covhop special in
09/65, in Stanier 8F's at work, page 110, passing Wigan
I guess this would go Northwich - Hartford - WCML (North) - Shawfield ??
Well, it depends on the point-of-view of the person asked!
Stevenson's 'Rocket' (No.1?).
Duchess of Hamilton.
Sir Nigel Gresley.
King George VI.
etc. etc. - the list goes on and on!
...and of course the very last Steam Locomotive to be built
by BR at Swindon - the Evening Star (92220). One Local
Enthusiast named his 'Pub' after it!
Any of the above would be instantly recognised as 'Famous'
Steam Trains by many people. I'm totally biased, so I have
a different perspective on the matter.
The Flying Scotsman is indeed a 'celebrity' among Trains,
but in my eyes the No.1. 'Puffer' most definitely has to be
the Green Arrow (BR 60800 / LNER 4771).
See, I told you I was biased! It must be a 'contender' as it
gets a mention, and a large photograph in the NRM's own
Souvenir Booklet - but there is, surprisingly, NO image of
the Flying Scotsman!
I must explain, to those who don't yet know, the reason for
my enthusiasm about the Green Arrow...
My Grandfather was one of the regular Crew for many years,
since it was first 'fired-up' in fact (1936), up to 1960. He has
always been my hero-figure since I can remember. Ever
since first seeing it, at about 4 years old, I have loved that
train, and now collect everything I can find about it!
Unfortunately he died aged 69, of lung damage (Emphysema)
when I was just 13. 'They' said it was caused by Smoking,
but 'we' know it was through years of breathing in Coal-Dust,
doing a job he loved, despite the hardships. My Grandmother,
Mother and Uncles, could verify those facts!
I miss him still, but he lives forever - in my proudly Displayed
Collection! I also use the name "Greenarrow" Online, as my
Username at Auctions etc.
And to think that it's the last remaining V2-class Engine, out
of 184 produced. Someone has a lot to answer for - and the
NRM had better look after it, or they will have me to deal with!!
See - I told you I was biased!
Flying Scotsman has been to .au and .us (maybe .ca?), which might help
its fame. Rocket has been to Japan (was that a replica?), but I don't
know about anywhere else.
Of cpurse there might be some loco which the entire population of
China or India knows about (Fairy Queen? (?sp)), but no-one anywhere
else had heard of, so that would win by sheer numbers!
I know that, Roger, but I was writing for the benefit of Mr. Arthur
Figgis and others in the UK, to avoid any confusion.
In my Gage Canadian dictionary, definition no. 7 of "pilot" is
"cowcatcher". The detailed definition of the latter is: "a metal apron
at the bottom of the front of a locomotive, designed to roll to one side
any obstruction on the tracks." So there!
I believe that 4472 visited Canada during it's North American sojourn -
I'm fairly certain I've seen photos of it at Toronto.
The "Rocket" replica also visited Australia. For a while it ran on
temporary track in a Sydney park. I was lucky enough to get a play on it
one day - heaps of fun!
All the best,
Thomas is a big seller in CanUSA since the TV series was adapted as
"Shining Time Station" with Ringo Starr and later George Carlin (well-
known "adult" stand-up comic). The Fat Controller became Sir Topham Hat.
No doubt the latter increased its fame.
Interesting article I found at: