Friday past, I went to my local Airgas to buy some new wire for my
little Lincoln MIG. The 11# roll was $25.90 and the total out the door
was $30 and change. I didn't think anything of it until I looked at the
receipt at home. There is a separate line item on the receipt for Haz
Mat Charge amounting to 10% of the cost of the wire. The guy behind the
counter said nothing about this extra charge. Upon calling them, they
said, "Yeah, it's #13 on the back." It turns out #13 on the back is a
small-print disclaimer that basically says they are charging the fee,
there is no law saying they have to, they just want more money.
Has anyone had experience with this? This is an Airgas facility in
Thanks for your time,
Mittler supply does the same thing. Even on TIG torch parts, etc, no
joke.... I have problems believing my foot control has a tough MSDS under
it... I feel the pain.. The small guy taking it in the rear end as usual.
Julian, I bought a 33# spool of .035 for about that amount here in
Houston, and there was no haz-mat fee. Sounds like a California thing
to me, but it may just be AirGas. I buy mine from a small dealer who
usually beats the big guys prices.
I've run into the same crap at Praxair-Torrance California, purchasing solid
steel wire no less. Same quiet sale like yours. I made the discovery on the way
home. I find it very irritating. The sales guy was supposed to be giving me a
special price. Yeah, he gave me something special all right.
I did buy some fluxcore at a smaller shop in Wilmington, CA a short time back
and they did NOT charge the "hazardous materials" charge. I forget the name of
the shop now that I'm trying to think of it.
Home Depot does nothing of the sort. I just wish they had a better selection.
I guess it's time to search the net for reasonable dealers. Lot's of times, the
"no sales tax across State Lines" balances out the shipping charge.
Remember the lead - the metal that is - in the solder and that nasty
copper stuff - landfill filler and killer of newts :-)
Really - there is a world wide effort to get the lead out of
Get ahold of Armondo Aragon at Fresno Oxygen a.k.a. RAM Welding Supply
or go to their website. Good honest people to deal with and NO B.S.
Free shipping if you are in the western U.S. Tell 'em Steve sent
ya.... Thanks, Steve
Hasn't anyone noticed?!
Airgas makes a point of buying out all the suppliers in their areas of
interest (not changing the original names) and then teaching the
customers the meaning of "Price Control". Ask before you buy from a
"Bubba' Welding Supply" if they are owned by Airgas...if so go
somewhere else for a reasonable price.
My hometown in Texas is Airgas controlled...we drive 120 miles and
make our purchases on a monthly basis.
Just my observation.