"David J. Starr" , In a message on Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:51:45 -0400, wrote :
"JS> "JS> "JS> "JS> Chris wrote: "JS> > "JS> > A few questions regarding Tortoise Switch Machines: "JS> > "JS> > 1. I have lost the spring wire for a Tortoise Switch machine. What would "JS> > make a suitable replacement? Where can I find it? "JS> "JS> "Music wire" is available at a good hobby shop. It is a very springy "JS> steel wire. It should be possible to make a new spring wire from a "JS> piece of music wire of the proper diameter. "JS> "JS> > "JS> > 2. I'm considering using Red/Green LED's or bicolor LEDs to indicate switch "JS> > position on control panel. As an electrical newbie, what is a good LED "JS> > to use for this purpose? (Manufacturer/Model number)? Thanks. "JS> "JS> LED's are pretty much all the same. They differ only in color, physical "JS> size, and maximum rated current. Used to be all LED's required 20 "JS> milliAmperes (mA) to light to full brilliance. Now a days a lot of LEDs "JS> out there are "hi efficiency" types that only need 10 mA. All Light "JS> Emitting Diodes are rectifiers. Biased forward (DC applied plus to "JS> minus) they light up, and conduct like a closed switch. They have NO "JS> internal resistance to limit the current thru them. You have to supply "JS> an external resistor of the right value otherwise they blow out. "JS> Instantaneously. Which converts them into Darkness Emitting Diodes "JS> (DED). For 12 volts DC, 470 ohms is good for the 20 mA types, 1K is "JS> about right for the 10 mA types. "JS> Biased in reverse (minus to plus) LEDs are dark. If the reverse bias "JS> exceeds 6 volts many LEDs blow out and become DEDs. So you want to be "JS> careful to install the LED the right way round. This is easier said "JS> than done because most LED's do not bear polarity markings. I use an
Commonly, one lead is a little longer than the other. Some LEDs may also have one side 'flattened' to indicate polarity.
Have a look at this PDF file (a page out of the Mouser Catalog) for details on LED polarity markings:
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The Cathode gets wired to a "-" side of of the supply. The Cathode is the shorter lead and the lead next to the flattened side of the LED (some of the larger LEDs have a flattened side).
"JS> ohm meter to determine which polarity makes a LED conduct. "JS> Bi colored LED's are actually two LEDs in the same package, wired in "JS> opposite directions. Biased one way shows one color, reverse the bias "JS> and you get the other color. "JS> I haven't wired tortoises my self, but they have a permanent magnet "JS> motor. Apply DC of one polarity and it turns one way, reverse the "JS> polarity of the current and it runs the other way. The motor draws so "JS> little current that the power is left on the motor all the time, it "JS> doesn't mind being powered up even when the turnout has reached end of "JS> travel and stalled. "JS> There are several ways the wire the LED. "JS> 1. You can put a bi colored LED in series with the tortoise motor IF "JS> and ONLY IF the it draws less than 20 mA. I seem to remember they draw "JS> 50 mA but I'd have to check a data sheet to be sure. This circuit has "JS> the benefit of indicating good wire all the way out the the tortoise and "JS> back. If the tortoise fails or the wire breaks, the LED doesn't light "JS> in either direction. A useful trouble shooting aid. "JS> 2. Put a bi colored LED with a current limiting resistor across the "JS> tortoise motor. "JS> This works, but the LED will stay lit even if there is a broken wire "JS> running out to the tortoise. "JS> "JS> "JS> > "JS> > 3. Does Circuitron provide "application notes" as an addendum to their "JS> > printed instructions? How does one go about attaining them? Just write "JS> > to them and ask? Any payment/SASE required? "JS> "JS> Try the circuitron web site. They must have one. "JS> > "JS> > 4. I'm new to wiring these but I think I know what to do. I see that the "JS> > machine has 2 SPDT switches on it. I was going to use one set to power "JS> > the frog. What sorts of applications do people use the other set for? "JS> > "JS> "JS> > Thanks in advance. "JS>
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