Ceriated tungsten going blue?

Jan 18, 2006 7 Replies

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AMW

If your welding using AC current, the tungsten balling is normal, however if your using reverse polarity, the balling will be extreme. The tungsten turning blue is due to a lack of gas coverage. It could be you don't have your post flow timer set long enough. Also check the…

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When welding 3mm ali section with a 3/32 ceriated tungsten at around 80 amps the tungsten is balling and turning blue. Is this a bad thing? I am totally new to ali welding, machine is Migatronic 220 AC / DC. I suspect it's not a good thing... :) Thanks


If your welding using AC current, the tungsten balling is normal, however if your using reverse polarity, the balling will be extreme.

The tungsten turning blue is due to a lack of gas coverage. It could be you don't have your post flow timer set long enough. Also check the flow rate of the torch gas, set for 15-25 cfh. Be sure there are no drafts in the weld area as that would affect the gas coverage.

Richard

Thanks Richard, this maybe confirms a worry I have that gas flow from the torch is not what I would expect from the flow on the flowmeter, it's barely audible with the torch to your ear. I wonder if there's a leak within the machine itself... Cheers.

I agree with the gas shortage , Argon or mixture should be flowing at 10 to

Phil you are getting your tungsten mixed up, thoriated isn't for AC zirtung is best most of the time and a 3/32 zirtung will work fine for 1/8 alum. up to 150 amps Dave

Dave While Phil didn't state that 2% doesn't work, I would agree it's not the first choice, especially for x-ray quality work. I too have welded in the aviation industry. 2% will weld Aluminum, however as you must know the ball doesn't hold up well, and with 2% and AC current you run the risk of tungsten coming off and into the weld, and then it doesn't pass x-ray. Zirconium tungsten has the advantage of holding the ball shape very well and you don't run the risk of tungsten contamination.

Richard

Richard you said it better than I did. Sorry Phil, I hate typeing so I tend to abreviate, didn't mean to say it wouldn't work I've used it myself with helium mix to get better pen., it can hold a smaller tip than zirtung for a short time but requires a lot more maintenance when it starts to erode, whereas with a properly dressed zirtung I've had them last for 2 - 3 hours on a good day (bad day 2-3 seconds) . I should have said that thoriated probably isn't the easiest choice for a beginner on AC alum.

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