Fast, Inexpensive, Strong Drawers

That's ludicrous.

The local hardwood yard has 5/4 red oak for 4.50 a board foot.

Reply to
J. Clarke
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For what you want to do I would try and find some used office file cabinets and/or desks that would work. Put them in place, rearrange them to taste and then make your bench over the top. Fill in the remainder as you find more that will work. But I've become super frugal and try not to be in a hurry to get anything like that done. If you need or want things NOW you pay a steep price (shrug).

Here is a very similar to mine in appearance office desk:

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Not practical to drive after though :)

Reply to
Leon Fisk

Well after much thought I figure I'll go with 3/4 plywood and pocket screws with Titebond. Now to find a good source for a gazillion 300lb and a few 500lb drawer slides. I've made a few 3/4 ply drawers already in my existing benches, and they are extremely strong. The nice thing is if time runs short I can just make them in batches.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

Personally, I'd use box joints for the drawer sides; much stronger.

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

Well, box joints are certainly stronger. I agree, but they fail in the faster department. I have glued and screwed drawers with hundreds of pounds of bolts, motors, etc in them now. They are several years old. The slides will fail from overloading before the drawers do.

I'm not a wood worker by trade or hobby, I don't get excited by the process, and I don't care about pretty. I doubt I'll even put false fronts on them. Probably just hack a dip in the front so I have a place to grab them.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

I would add that depending on details we aren't talking about 5-6 drawers or even a dozen or twenty. I am looking at around 90-100 drawers in that span. Making one box doesn't take all that long, but making a hundred of them sure does.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

If all the boxes are uniform in size, it would seem feasible to build a jig that lets one gang-cut the box-joints with a router; stack a dozen or two 3/4" sides/fronts/backs (if square draws) on edge, clamp, place a homemade router guide jig over the edges and route away.

May be a wash timewise when compared with screwing and glueing.

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

I'll have to think about that. Its worth consideration. It has the advantage of not worrying about the shifting force with pocket hole screws.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

Mounting the router in a router table would make fixturing easier.

Reply to
Jim Wilkins

I wouldn't want to try to move a 9" thick stack of 20"x8"[*] plywood pieces on edge across a router table. Much easier to move the router in this case and keep the material stationary.

[*] Assuming a 20" wide by 8" deep drawer.
Reply to
Scott Lurndal

If only my CNC router were a little bigger. Ok, about ten times bigger. LOL.

Reply to
Bob La Londe

I wouldn't want to either, that's a task a bandsaw (or my sawmill) could rough out and a jointer or thickness planer could finish, but a table saw is the better choice. The router would cut the edge detail separately for each piece, guided by the fixture clamped to the table.

My father and I made a batch of t&g flooring on his Shopsmith, set up like a horizontal-shaft table router. The saw fence was the width guide and we clamped on scrap wood blocks to hold the flooring strips against the table, so they only needed to be pushed through by the next strip. I used the Shopsmith the same way with a saw blade to cut the edge tongues and grooves in cabinet panel doors.

Reply to
Jim Wilkins

I've no experience with making drawers for holding hundreds of lbs. of motors and such, but, I absolutely would not simply use Titebond and pocket screws with plywood. Pocket screws are not appropriate, imo, for any drawer and gluing plywood edge grain to face grain is also a no no in my book, especially if strength is an issue.

Personally, I wouldn't even use plywood, I'd use 1x material with at a bare minimum of locking rabbited drawer joints and glue. No screws needed but could clamp with nail gun for speed while glue dries. This would be very fast for multiple drawers of a standard size on just your table saw, and way stronger than pocket screws, glue and plywood.

Also it's worth noting that drawers do not need to be the full height of the drawer opening. The drawers mainly just need to keep the items from rolling off the drawer. You can save a lot of material with 100 drawers that way. Use plywood for the bottoms.

Reply to
Jack

How on earth do you cut box joints with a bandsaw?

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

How do you rout a 9" thick stack?

Reply to
Jim Wilkins

Answering a question with a question?

Simple. You have 16 3/4" thick baltic birch plywood pieces, say 12" x 18". Stack them one atop the next; now you have a stack of plywood 12" thick. (Assumption: The drawers are 18" square with 12" high sides; the number of sides in the stack must be congruent to zero modulo four).

Split the stack in half (because you need two different crenellation patterns for them to join correctly). Now you have two stacks 6" thick.

Set the stack on end. Clamp the stack to prevent the boards from shifting. Clamp it vertically in the face vise (or clamp it to a vertical surface such that the end you're routing is horizontal).

Place your homemade box-joint jig[*] over the end, clamp and rout away. Offset the jig by the width of one crenellation for the other stack to cut the matching joint.

[*] The most basic being a simple fence and some spacer blocks you can add as you move the router from slot to slot.

Voila, one now has the sides for four drawers. Glue, assemble and clamp.

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

You must have a very nice router if you can cut the edges of a 6" thick stack without chatter or deflection.

Reply to
Jim Wilkins

I once ran a 15 HP pin router that could eat wood very fast. It took that monster at least a minute to come up to speed IIRC.

Reply to
gray_wolf

[re 2 stacks of 8 ea. 3/4" pieces)]:

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Stack thickness makes no difference -- router bit stickout is just over 3/4", regardless of thickness.

Reply to
James Waldby

Then what's the point of stacking the boards, and having to avoid the clamps?

Reply to
Jim Wilkins

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