MIG - spray vs. dip - T-fillets heavy beam structurals

Oct 28, 2007 2 Replies

Hi everyone



Where I work in a fab. shop, most welds are hori-vert T-fillets. Typically adding end-plates to beams to make steel structurals. Thicknesses - 6mm to 12mm in the web and flanges.



Showing on the machine's meters:



The "heavy beams" condition I see my workmates use is 260A, 22V. Which is a high-amps dip-transfer condition.



I go to spray at typically 240A, 33V - get a nice small arc cone giving good fusion and a very smooth bead.



(just found out the machine is 500A - yet to try higher power).



As power is Amps x Volts, my conditions give 50% extra fusing power...



So what does anyone reckon to these conditions?



For all partial pentration butt welds, etc, my conditions are plainly the business.



But for T-fillets? Do you need the penetrating power? I've never cut open a 260A 22V weld, but I suspect there is fusion between the fillet and the bead. I can actually see with my spray conditions the terminating plate edge melting - but is that fusion really needed? A T-fillet weld is about the only one where you unavoidably rely on filler metal. For butt welds and the like, with more fusing power you narrow the weld and ultimately with the likes of electron-beam can do without filler.



So what I am getting at - so long as the fillet is fused to the base plates, is there advantage in actually keeping the heat input down and just seeing it as maximal metal deposition by forcing dip transfer at the conditions like 260A, 22V?



Rich S



The goal of all welds "should" be to use as little heat as possible to reduce weld distortion and the size of the heat affected zone. However in modern production welding speed is often put above quality.

Both approaches can achieve a strong weld. You have to balance the affect of the increased heat against the speed.

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Thanks Randy

I usually go spray for the following reason:

As many fillets are 6mm leg length (1/4-inch), which is often small for the section size and thickness, and this leg length is the natural size of a weld bead done in spray at 240A, 33V (at the power source) going for good fusion (run-rate such that arc landing just at the tip of the weld pool), I use the spray conditions happily. No spatter and you can bet your bottom dollar the weld is at least as strong as the

6mm leg-length specified fillet size (fusion would increase strength), so happy with these fast one-straight-run small smooth spray transfer fillets.

I'll look at keeping the heat input down for bigger fillets by using spray. I was wondering about distortion - whether less heat is usually better regarding distortion...

Thanks again.

Richard Smith

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