Swappin' welders do si do ............

Pick a machine, there you go.

My Lincoln 175SP+ is kaput. $75 an hour for diagnosis, circuit boards up to $400. Other repairs as needed.

I must first admit to my own stupidity, buying only on brand loyalty, and the situation at the time, which was an overabundance of cash. I must admit that if I had investigated it at all, I would have NEVER chose the 175. But, I bought it, then it sat and sat and sat, with heart surgery, traumatic brain injury, two year recovery, broken back, yada yada yada.

Now, I need the machine, and it won't work. Warranty expired, but the machine has been cranky since day one.

I called around, and located a Miller 175. My friend agreed to loan it to me, as he has used it about three times in the last five years. Or rather, someone has used it. He can't get his gloves on the correct hands. He'd probably sell it to me.

Anyhoo, I got it home, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE in construction and component parts. Metal components in the drive train. Drive wheels like the old Miller Matic 200. A nice metal tensioner with substantially more than the Lincoln wingnut. A very nice hub tensioner vs. the $.15 wingnut of Lincoln. A MUCH higher quality gun. A larger box, and heavier. Again, I must admit to stupidity, as if I had looked closer and compared side by side, Ronnie Milsap could have noticed the difference.

So, I'm back on track to finish my project.

Now, the interesting part. What Lincoln is willing to do to rectify the situation. I don't expect anything, a lesson I learned early in life. But we have an open line of communication, at least whenever this rep gets back from his announced time off, which was yesterday.

Somebody kick me. I deserve this one.

Steve

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Steve B
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Sounds good. I really like my Miller 180 SD - TIG / Stick. Not MIG. I think mine is well built and keeps on working. I don't push it - but have done some full speed ahead with full current.

Someday a nice MIG.

Mart> Pick a machine, there you go.

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Martin Eastburn

So, Martin, how much of your time you are using stick, and how much TIG, as percentage of your time? I am using stick 90%. 99% if I measure by weld deposition.

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Ignoramus14275

I don't TIG much but it was part of the machine. I wanted the TIG so I might be able to work on more metals. It is a matter of want and need.

For Targets - stick is the way - or a big MIG. I have stick so I stick.

The 175 and 180 might have many similar or identical elements - just a different control board and the like. So the large transformer is likely the same - perhaps wired differently - perhaps not.

The electronics and electricity parts make the difference I suppose.

Mart> >> Sounds good.

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Martin Eastburn

"Martin Eastburn" wrote

The two 175's side by side are obviously different. Larger case on the Miller. And I'd say about ten to twenty pounds heavier. Lift up the cover, and the difference is apparent, Miller having steel components, and Lincoln plastic. The drive rollers on the Millermatic 175 are the size for the old Millermatic 200. The drive rollers for the Lincoln are the diameter of a quarter if that. Lots of obvious differences in materials used. Cheesy reel tensioner on the Lincoln vs: large adjustable wheel on the Miller.

In the 175 Lincoln vs. the 180 Lincolns, the 180 has metal drive components, and a much heftier assembly than the 175.

I think the 175 will do what I want, and it's available, and I know the history of it. It's basically unused. Maybe later, a 2** Miller, but for now, I just want to finish this project, plus some gates. I'll shop around, and maybe snag one for a good price.

Steve

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Steve B

Miller 180 SD is a stick TIG machine and has large wheels...

I think you misunderstood what 180 I talked about.

Mart> "Martin Eastburn" wrote

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Martin Eastburn

I guess I did. I was mistaken then, because I have a friend who has a machine like this 175 Millermatic, and I thought his was a 180. And then, on the Lincoln side, there's the 175SP+, which I think is now the 180, and don't they also have a 175 squarewave tig? Gets complicated.

Steve

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Steve B

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