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- Roger Shoaf
February 27, 2007, 7:18 pm
I have just finished replacing the pump on my washing machine. As a
die-hard do it your selfer, this is not the first time I have locked horns
with the beast, it is the third. To bring you up on the story, I will first
describe round one and round two as this gives context to the story of round
three.
About three years ago the machine stopped agitating. I could hear the motor
run, the pump was working but it would not spin, nor would the agitator
slosh the clothes around.
How tough could this be I ask myself? Well I figured that the worst part of
the job would be clearing the crap out from around the washing machine. My
soon to be ex wife created piles of stuff everywhere, and the laundry area
was no exception. (She suffered from Bipolar II.) When I finally got some
working room I attempted to disassemble the machine. I was having no luck
so I inverted the machine. There is a small amount of water that remains in
the machine that does not get pumped out. I bet you can guess how I found
this interesting fact out.
With the machine up side down, I saw the problem. There is a coupler that
connects the motor and the transmission. It is a disk of rubber with six
holes and the motor and the transmission have plastic disks with three
prongs each that fit in the holes. This was shot. I worked and worked to
get the pump and motor off the machine having to make several runs to buy
tools to access recalcitrant bolts. This was on a Saturday, and I had to
wait for Monday to get the part to fix the thing.
I also came to the conclusion that I had taken the wrong approach to
disassembling the machine but I did not know exactly how I had failed but I
figured that I should buy the repair manual for $15.95 or I would be forever
to reassemble the thing. I got the part on Monday, but I had to wait for
the book so I waited to read the book to complete the project.
While I was waiting for the book, laundry was piling up so a trip to the
Laundromat was required. I was on call the next week-end (I am a locksmith)
so I read the book and found out that it was very simple to disassemble the
machine, two screws, two clips and unplug one plug and you have access to
the works. Grumble grumble.
I returned to my task when I was off call, and when I righted the machine I
discovered that all of transmission gear oil had leaked out of the machine.
It was only about a pint of oil but it was a big mess, and I had to
completely disassemble the drum and agitator assembly to access the
transmission.
The repair manual said nothing about what kind of oil to use, not how to go
about refilling the transmission. Its suggestion was that this was beyond
the scope of the do it your selfer. Arrrrrgggghh.
Undaunted, I disassembled the transmission and decided to use good old 90
weight gear oil for a car.
I had to guess the proper level, and was lucky that the gasket had survived
the disassembly in tact. Having cleaned up all of the oil and reassembled
everything the washer work flawlessly.
A year later the machine was always going out of balance so I consulted the
book and this time I knew how to take the thing apart. Several plastic
thingies were worn and ordered them and waited about 4 days for the parts to
arrive in the mail. Installing these buggers was a little more involved but
I finally got them in and the machine back together. In the process of
installing the little plastic thingies, I had neglected to reattach a hose
clamp that I slid out of the way and did not reattach the clamp prior to
reassembling the machine.
The hose stayed put while I ran a test load with the empty washer. I then
(needing underwear for the next day) loaded a full load of whites with soap
and bleach and started the cycle.
When the washer hit the spin cycle, and began to pump out all of the dirty
soapy bleachy water the hose popped of the pump and I had a flood. Clean up
mess, take the machine apart and reattach the hose.
About two months ago I noticed a leak, not a big leak, but a leak
nonetheless. I had assumed incorrectly that the cause was the drain vacuum
breaker. This has gotten clogged before and a cleaning has solved the
problem. It was not the vacuum breaker this time it was the pump leaking
Two months of mopping up after each load finally drove me to take apart the
machine again, and this is where I discovered the leaky pump.
Hey at least this was an easy fix, two screws, two clips and the case comes
off. Two clips and two hose clamps and the pump comes off. I had left the
case off the machine and today the new pump came in the mail. I had several
gallons of water in the tub, and for days it had been leaking into a drip
pan that I had put under the leaky pump and I had emptied the thing twice a
day and mopped up the water that I spilled when I emptied the tray but there
was still water in the tub. Damn the pump is the low point and there is no
provision to drain the water. I was faced with the choice of waiting a
couple of weeks for all the water to drip out or do something else. I had
to fight to remove the switch from the lid to so I could plug it in to pump
out the water so I could remove the pump. In the process of removing the
switch, a little clip flew off and I had to go hunting for it. I had picked
up a two-gallon bottle of pine sol and set it on top of the case while I was
hunting for the little clip.
I then attempted to remove the hoses from the pump and carefully catch the
remaining water in my drip pan. Too much water or two small of a pan but I
was again cleaning up water off the floor where I had to lay in order to
change the pump. The floor now dry, and the hoses off, I pop the two clips
off the pump and the pump is stuck. I finally get the pump off but the shaft
is badly rusted from the leaking pump. About 45 minutes of scraping,
chipping and grinding and the rust is gone. I apply some grease and the new
pump slips in place like it belonged there. I reattach the hose clamps this
time and decide it is time for a break.
Into the kitchen for a nice cold bottle of beer, and the case from the
washing machine is a little too far into the kitchen to allow the fridge
door to open. I scootch the case back into the laundry room and that bottle
of Pine-Sol goes crashing to the floor. I hear a glug, glug, glug and I am
back on damage control. I estimate about 2 quarts of the stinky slippery
stuff is on the floor and oozing.
Pine-Sol as you may know is water-soluble and designed to be diluted before
use. In other words it is a royal Canadian pain the ass to mop up. My
whole house smells like a turpentine distillery, the bathtub and bathroom
that I cleaned up is now filthy.
I hope this is the last round of washing machine repair for a while.
--
Roger Shoaf
If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?
die-hard do it your selfer, this is not the first time I have locked horns
with the beast, it is the third. To bring you up on the story, I will first
describe round one and round two as this gives context to the story of round
three.
About three years ago the machine stopped agitating. I could hear the motor
run, the pump was working but it would not spin, nor would the agitator
slosh the clothes around.
How tough could this be I ask myself? Well I figured that the worst part of
the job would be clearing the crap out from around the washing machine. My
soon to be ex wife created piles of stuff everywhere, and the laundry area
was no exception. (She suffered from Bipolar II.) When I finally got some
working room I attempted to disassemble the machine. I was having no luck
so I inverted the machine. There is a small amount of water that remains in
the machine that does not get pumped out. I bet you can guess how I found
this interesting fact out.
With the machine up side down, I saw the problem. There is a coupler that
connects the motor and the transmission. It is a disk of rubber with six
holes and the motor and the transmission have plastic disks with three
prongs each that fit in the holes. This was shot. I worked and worked to
get the pump and motor off the machine having to make several runs to buy
tools to access recalcitrant bolts. This was on a Saturday, and I had to
wait for Monday to get the part to fix the thing.
I also came to the conclusion that I had taken the wrong approach to
disassembling the machine but I did not know exactly how I had failed but I
figured that I should buy the repair manual for $15.95 or I would be forever
to reassemble the thing. I got the part on Monday, but I had to wait for
the book so I waited to read the book to complete the project.
While I was waiting for the book, laundry was piling up so a trip to the
Laundromat was required. I was on call the next week-end (I am a locksmith)
so I read the book and found out that it was very simple to disassemble the
machine, two screws, two clips and unplug one plug and you have access to
the works. Grumble grumble.
I returned to my task when I was off call, and when I righted the machine I
discovered that all of transmission gear oil had leaked out of the machine.
It was only about a pint of oil but it was a big mess, and I had to
completely disassemble the drum and agitator assembly to access the
transmission.
The repair manual said nothing about what kind of oil to use, not how to go
about refilling the transmission. Its suggestion was that this was beyond
the scope of the do it your selfer. Arrrrrgggghh.
Undaunted, I disassembled the transmission and decided to use good old 90
weight gear oil for a car.
I had to guess the proper level, and was lucky that the gasket had survived
the disassembly in tact. Having cleaned up all of the oil and reassembled
everything the washer work flawlessly.
A year later the machine was always going out of balance so I consulted the
book and this time I knew how to take the thing apart. Several plastic
thingies were worn and ordered them and waited about 4 days for the parts to
arrive in the mail. Installing these buggers was a little more involved but
I finally got them in and the machine back together. In the process of
installing the little plastic thingies, I had neglected to reattach a hose
clamp that I slid out of the way and did not reattach the clamp prior to
reassembling the machine.
The hose stayed put while I ran a test load with the empty washer. I then
(needing underwear for the next day) loaded a full load of whites with soap
and bleach and started the cycle.
When the washer hit the spin cycle, and began to pump out all of the dirty
soapy bleachy water the hose popped of the pump and I had a flood. Clean up
mess, take the machine apart and reattach the hose.
About two months ago I noticed a leak, not a big leak, but a leak
nonetheless. I had assumed incorrectly that the cause was the drain vacuum
breaker. This has gotten clogged before and a cleaning has solved the
problem. It was not the vacuum breaker this time it was the pump leaking
Two months of mopping up after each load finally drove me to take apart the
machine again, and this is where I discovered the leaky pump.
Hey at least this was an easy fix, two screws, two clips and the case comes
off. Two clips and two hose clamps and the pump comes off. I had left the
case off the machine and today the new pump came in the mail. I had several
gallons of water in the tub, and for days it had been leaking into a drip
pan that I had put under the leaky pump and I had emptied the thing twice a
day and mopped up the water that I spilled when I emptied the tray but there
was still water in the tub. Damn the pump is the low point and there is no
provision to drain the water. I was faced with the choice of waiting a
couple of weeks for all the water to drip out or do something else. I had
to fight to remove the switch from the lid to so I could plug it in to pump
out the water so I could remove the pump. In the process of removing the
switch, a little clip flew off and I had to go hunting for it. I had picked
up a two-gallon bottle of pine sol and set it on top of the case while I was
hunting for the little clip.
I then attempted to remove the hoses from the pump and carefully catch the
remaining water in my drip pan. Too much water or two small of a pan but I
was again cleaning up water off the floor where I had to lay in order to
change the pump. The floor now dry, and the hoses off, I pop the two clips
off the pump and the pump is stuck. I finally get the pump off but the shaft
is badly rusted from the leaking pump. About 45 minutes of scraping,
chipping and grinding and the rust is gone. I apply some grease and the new
pump slips in place like it belonged there. I reattach the hose clamps this
time and decide it is time for a break.
Into the kitchen for a nice cold bottle of beer, and the case from the
washing machine is a little too far into the kitchen to allow the fridge
door to open. I scootch the case back into the laundry room and that bottle
of Pine-Sol goes crashing to the floor. I hear a glug, glug, glug and I am
back on damage control. I estimate about 2 quarts of the stinky slippery
stuff is on the floor and oozing.
Pine-Sol as you may know is water-soluble and designed to be diluted before
use. In other words it is a royal Canadian pain the ass to mop up. My
whole house smells like a turpentine distillery, the bathtub and bathroom
that I cleaned up is now filthy.
I hope this is the last round of washing machine repair for a while.
--
Roger Shoaf
If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?
Re: OT washing machine repair story
I help out all the time on lock work but I draw the line at explaining to
folks how to defeat locks. The reason for this is that once I teach someone
how to do this, then it might very well be the lock locking up *your* tools
or other stuff *you* would like to keep.
I hope you liked my washing machine story.
--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.
Re: OT washing machine repair story
I had hoped the smiley at the end would mean
you wouldn't take it too seriously. I'm
sure you're as helpful as your ethics allow,
but that's not been my experience with locksmiths,
either locally or on the internet.
I did like your washing machine story. I've
been there, but without the Pinesoll. I know
what it's like to have 2 females semi-hysterically
telling me that they *can't* wait until Tuesday
when the Maytag man comes and that I need to
fix it *now*. Sigh.
Well, sorry again that you were offended with
my comment.
Re: OT washing machine repair story
Last time I needed the Maytag man was when the water level switch on
the dishwasher went bye-bye on a Saturday night and since, at that
time, I worked out of town all week, Sunday was my only chance to fix
the problem. I gave the repairman a call and he suggested I come pick
up the part between 9 and 10 next morning - he works from home - and
install it myself as I had done with all other parts he had supplied.
The household was happy again by Sunday noon.
Incidentally, I now have most of three parts machines at a total cost
of eleven dollars - less than the cost of the new silverware basket I
needed when I started collecting.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Re: OT washing machine repair story
JR
Dweller in the cellar
Roger Shoaf wrote:
My soon to be ex wife (She suffered from Bipolar II.)
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Re: OT washing machine repair story
In the meantime, can you use a Shopvac to vacumm the water out of the tub
prior to repair? It would make things much easier. I use a shop vac to
remove the remaining water in a toilet tank if I need to pull the tank from
the bowl. Keeps the water getting all over the bathroom floor.
Tony
Re: OT washing machine repair story
I got the pump for about $30 a new washing machine would have been about
$600. If everything had gone according to plan, it would have been about a
half an hour to R&R the pump.
A couple of points. The water was in the outer tub the inner tub (The one
that has the holes you can see when you open the lid.) was dry.
What might have worked is if I hooked up the shop vac to the drain hose.
Thanks for the idea, perhaps next time I will try that. Of course now that
the machine has a new pump, it will probably be 10 to 15 years before I need
to replace the pump again.
--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.
Re: OT washing machine repair story
I certainly enjoyed the story. When they ring true they become
"literature".
Many of us has been there, done that, etc. After 20 years, 2
pumps, rebuilding timer, water solenoid, etc; the last time it
died I told to go pick out a new set. The new dryer only lasted 2
weeks. I tested the power to the machine end of the pigtail, yes,
it had power. Boy, was I tempted to keep on going; but I told her
it would probably void the warranty. She told me to leave it
alone, which I did and left my tools on the dryer. She said the
first thing the repairman asked is whether I had been in it. The
nerve!!!
Turned out being a fuse just inside the case. I could probably
have done that without spilling the Pinesol.
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
dgriff237@7cox.net
Re: OT washing machine repair story
Good story and I empathize with you. I bought my Whirlpool in 1981 and
have only spent about $35 in maintenance over that time period. Why
should we reward the manufacturers by buying new ones that only last 4-6
years now?
--
Gary Brady
Austin, TX
www.powdercoatoven.4t.com
Re: OT washing machine repair story
I used to sell and repair commercial laundry equipment so when our washer
died at home I figured I would take a crack at fixing it. I did get it
repaired again, but spent the better part of the weekend doing so! A year
later when it died again I threw in the towel and bought a new washer and
figured it was money well spent. Commercial equipment was easy compared to
the homeowner stuff!
Greg
Re: OT washing machine repair story
http://www.do-it-yourself-washing-machine-and-dryer-repair-help.com /
http://fixitnow.com/faq.htm
Ill have to go home and post the BEST appliance website Ive ever
found..its book marked. Great pictures of each step etc.
Gunner
"Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western civilization as it
commits suicide"
- James Burnham
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