I see them on Ebay from time to time, usually they are selling a few
P-51 kits or a 1/4 scale Champ or Citabria. I do not know why they went
this way, makes it a pain to get one. Wish they would go back to direct
sales or through the major distributors/shops etc.
The kits are decidedly old in design and construction but they do fly
extremely well. I still miss my 1/4 scale Citabria that I lost in a
crash several years ago, it was one of the nciest flying planes I have
ever sen and/or flown. I have a spare kit in the shop, need to build
another one of these days.
Cutting kits is his part time job. When he gets ahead a few he sells them. When
he wants a few days off, he takes them.
The kits are cut in runs..once he sets up for a model he cuts kits for only
that model. He then changes his setup and cuts something different. All in all,
I'm glad they are mostly still available.
I bought my Mr. Mulligan kit here on this NG from a fellow. An ad on most of
the forums and or e-bay will get you what you want reasonably quick. The Jenny
and Gere Sport are harder to come by.
The one kit of the 1/4 scale Champ I picked up on E-Bay a while back (about a
year ago) was really bad. The die crushed wood was completly unusable. Luckily,
it is mostly sticks. I ended up scratching out the stuff I needed from wood I
had or got from the LHS. It seems thier tooling is getting quite old. This was
my 3rd or 4th A&A kit I have built. The others were much better.
The kits I had from the late 80's early 90's were much better. Maybe that is
why they are using e-bay to sell what they have. I tried to contact them about
a gear set for my Mr. Mulligan, but they never returned my e-mail.
Personally, I would not buy another from them until I heard that thier quality
I won't argue that their quality has slipped, but I have built half a
dozen of their kits over the years and have become (by necessity) quite good
at taking a box of crappy wood and making nice airplanes out of them. I have
even come up with the necessary mods needed for using Quadra's on them in
order for the airplanes to hold up over time.
The reason I asked the original question is that I'm currently flying
the 1/4 Citabria, and I also have 2 other 1/4 Citabria kits, 1 1/4 Champ
kit, and 1 1/4 Gere Sport kit on the shelf. I would, however, like to find a
(cheap?) 1/4 Mr. Mulligan kit as well as the big Nosen Trainer just for fun.
I guess I'll have to keep an eye on Ebay...
I will look to see if I have the plans...You would probably be better off
starting from them and making your own parts anyway! I do see them pop up from
time to time and you can always use the favorites feature and have the system
notify you when they come up for auction.
I also sell some decal sets that are cut vinyl and printed vinyl if you are
interested. I can send a pic if you want to see them.
Good luck with it!
I'm a Nosen collector as well. I fly a 310 and have the Champ, Citabria, 310,
Mulligan, Mustang, and Trainer in kit form. I'll find me a Gere Sport one day
and I may have a P-47 located now... I'm lucky to have bought my 310 some years
back.. it has cowls. The Mustang is even older and includes the canopy and came
with a Belt drive, 6 inch spinner and 4 blade 18 inch prop. It is fun chasing
down the kits and parts...
Dean still has a couple of the original Byron kits around
Click on the R/C airplanes kits link in the left column, they are at the
end of the list. The site isn't updated often. Fire off an email and
If you make a Nosen Trainer, make it a tail dragger. I built a body from
scratch. Very simple box design. It solves two problems , it gets away
frm the wobbly nose gear and it is a blast to fly. Tame as a kitten on
the ground. Use struts as I folded the wings once. Wish I had another one.!!
I almost bought the Trainer kit, but a sniper beat me to it (no
complaints here, I snipe too!) but I'm still looking for one to bash into a
One thing I DID pick up off Ebay a while back was 1/2 scale (yes, 1/2
scale) plans for the Citabria.
I bought them from the guy who built the prototype kit for A&A but they
killed the project before it was ever offered as a kit. But I have the plans
so I'm thinking that it could be a lot of fun with a big twin in it.
Too many airplanes, so little time :-(
It would be nicer if he would just print the outline of the rib and let
me do the cutting. I built a few of the old Nosen kits before AA and had
a lot of fun with the 'BIG' citabria. I think it sold for 70 dollars or
so. Hated to build up the cowl. It did fly with a .60 but better with a
.75 to .90. Center section also gave me fits but a good redesign fixed
that. And it did need struts.
I've had three of them over the years some from Nosen and some from
A&A. The wood and cutting was definately better in the Nosen kits.
The first acrually flew on a K&B 61...very weak but managable..
crashed in the late '60's. Second on had a converted Homelite in it
and flew well....sold it. The last one I built up as a Citabria Pro
from pictures I got from Oskosh and powered it with a Saito 270T and
later an OS120 pumper. On the 270 it was wild. One time after talking
and assembling at the same time during an air show, I did a loop after
takeoff and noticed that when I came out I had a lot of extra
dihedral....right I forgot to attach the struts at the bottom of the
fuse.... it survived. Sold it to Pete Rawlings. I now have one still
in the box from A&A waiting for assembly someday. I ramble on because
even if the wood is a bit crunched and the design pretty old, it is
one of the truly great flying scale models. Use the fiberglass cowl,
gusset the after framework with 1/32 ply if you use a gas engine, beef
up the LG with 3/16 music wire, make the tail feathers removable, and
use lots of aileron differential and rudder mixing. Incidentally, if
you want to do a Pro I have the patterns to make the conversion. It
won't look like the BUSA version but it will be right. If you want to
research the Pro the designation was 8KCAB.
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