"should" is subjective.
I like my titles in paper space. I keep 3 tabs for the different paper
sizes I am likely to use, set to plot to extents with my titleblock,
labeled C D & E.
I keep them with the appropriately sized title block and rename the tab
to an appropriate number, and copy that sheet for subsequent sheets.
My needs are simple, Basement Plan, Main Level Plan.... Front Elevation.
I keep copies of all my texts I use every job on one tab. Cut & Paste,
But I have worked with jobs that had lots of details and sections.
Were I living in that world again, I would have a standard Block or
three with attributes in paper space.
In paper space the titles would all be the same scale, through the
viewport, the title scaling would have to be calculated for each.
Not the end of the world, but not taking the advantage paper space was
intended to provide.
The only thing NOT to do would be BOTH.
And if in the future you start working in 3D, you will be putting text
in paper space, or I am a wombat.
I forget which.
I my opinion, all text referring to plans and drawings should be in
Here is an example: There is a mech. eng. (who shall remain nameless)
that puts all his notes (not just titles - equipment mark numbers and
duct sizes as well) on paper space. Drawing looks fine, but when I want
to "lift" his equipment and mark numbers off his drawing to mine, so I
can power up the equipment, I have to copy and paste twice. Once for
the equipment and then once with the text (which obviously has to be
Need another reason? Many architects put their plan and detail titles
on paper space. They usually do all their plans on one sheet: demo, new
work, reflected ceiling plan etc. , for all floors, then create
appropriate layout tabs A1.1111, A1.1112, etc. If the titles are on the
paper space portion, when you get to model space to lift the
backgrounds, it's a crap-shoot to choosing the correct plan.
Now my rant: Architects, please don't put text on a wall layers. I
really don't need your words on my background and the "e" on my keyboard
is fading. Thanks.
What is your purpose for putting the titles on paper space? Laziness?
Not a good excuse in my opinion. In conclusion (didn't think I was
getting there did you?) if anyone has to use your drawings, it is
helpful to have all text in model space so that no information is missed.
Oh one more thing: There are some architects that so heavily format
their work plans (walls, doors, windows) and titleblocks that I charge
extra time because I have to undo the formatting so the walls, etc. will
print lightly for me.
I'm done. Sorry for the ranting. Could you tell, I spent time this
week just making someone else's backgrounds work for me? Have a good
Yeah, formatting. I suppose the architects insert their titleblocks and
then put in the text they want: ie: drawn by, checked by, rev no. and
date, drawing number, etc. However, we choose to use the titleblock as
an xref drawing, so if the job title changes (which it does frequently,
I'm not sure why) or we insert the issue date, we only have to do it one
time. Also sometimes the backgrounds have walls that don't seem to be
just blocks. If they are exploded, sometimes they disappear (perhaps
they use and add-on program that we don't have). If the color of the
walls (or any entity) has been assigned rather than "bylayer" chances
are it will print incorrectly for our needs. That's what I'm talking
about. Sorry if I was not clearer in my rant.
Well, yeah I think so, unless it is a block and colors were assigned to
the individual components before the block was made. Usually I start by
selecting all showing and un-locked (as you recommend) and then choose
"bylayer", and that works on most of the entities. Have I been missing
something? A slick new command perhaps? Or just an old one I don't know
Janice (acad 2005)
BTW, I have a pretty good explode routine that preserves the color and
linetype subentities might inherit from their block insertion, and explodes
them onto the block's insertion layer. Using it, you could just explode
every block in the above condition, then change like before. It's called
Mylexpode.lsp and it's on my website.
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