Machining Tips From John at Stellar Machine Inc.

Jon:

We're a few years behind on Gibbs maintenance (no need to fork over $7,500 for 5 seats every year if it's not really needed), so we don't have the latest & greatest features. But to the best of my knowledge Gibbs has come out with an operations manager in spreadsheet form which combined with their HSM speed/feed add-in, supposedly can alter the speeds & feeds for multiple operations. If you have to make tool offset changes you could comp. it in the control. I don't know how many other parameters can be changed in multiple operations, you'd have to call Gibbs to find out. I've worked on some jobs with over 120 operations, but our normal number of ops is usually significantly less than 100.

sh$t, I was laughing so hard I messed up, It should have read "when do get you out of high school? "

On another note, I have used the March 15 tip many times, works real well with a 5c air closer, quick and dirty, just have to allow the operator enough time to get out of the way.

Thanks for the link BB, lots of useable ideas there.

You've got nothing to offer a progressive machining job shop. Suggest you take the offer before you starve to death.

From how you stalk and respond to everyone of my posts it's clear that you wish you were Jon Banquer.

Here's a clue. This is alt.machines.cnc

I'm "DYING" to get some more changes made in the CADCAM business and my blog helps to get those changes. That you're too much of an moron to figure out what those changes are and who's posting to my blog isn't something I can control.

You show how much of an idiot you are with every post, Anderson. Please keep up the good work. I need a new bitch as I've used the other one's up.

Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

I do that one pretty often but I'd never set up an operator like that though!

Jon

"But to the best of my knowledge Gibbs has come out with an operations manager in spreadsheet form..."

It's should be called an Operations Viewer because most of the fields are not editable. Mastercam blows Gibbscam out of the water in this area with its Edit Common Parameters.

"I don't know how many other parameters can be changed in multiple operations, you'd have to call Gibbs to find out."

No reason to call Gibbs and be lied to. I already know... very few of the fields are editable. To make this work would require a massive amount of work that Bill Gibbs has so far refused to do because he's cheap and because he won't hire more programmers that are qualified. When he has had programmers that are qualified they've quit.

Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

You mess up often. What else is new.

Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

All I'm saying is I feel a lot better if the guy running my machine pushes the green button when ready. It does not add any time to the cycle and I don't have to worry about him loosing a hand. Jerry

Ye ole bypass the door interlock tip?

(Everything is fine till someone gets hurt.)

Tom

Had a few minutes to waste on some worthless drivel,,,,,,mission accomplished

Among the most irresponsible and dangerous pieces of information I've seen on the internet in a long time. Way to go, "machinist".

Tom, tell us about all the hand-fed automated cycles that don't include appropriate guards to insure that the operator doesn't get drilled, punched, sawed, sheared, electrocuted, burned, painted, poisoned or frozen that you've come across which were also legally safe to operate (according to OHSA)?

Simply that the program is still running while the machine doors are open seems to be a violation, no?

I only have experience with press operation, but what you're suggesting is illegal and very dangerous - and absolutely inexcusable. Don't forget that you might be writing a production program for someone who isn't quite as capable of keeping their mind in line after a couple thousand cycles.

Also impressive to see the posts agreeing with this technique. This industry is full of monkeys (apparently monkeys who can type too).

Regards,

Robin

You're an expert on worthless drivel.

Sure is.

Result is the same... you once again made an ass of yourself.

Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

Thanks. For a moment I thought I was alone on this one. Jerry

Among the most irresponsible and dangerous pieces of information I've seen on the internet in a long time. Way to go, "machinist".

Tom, tell us about all the hand-fed automated cycles that don't include appropriate guards to insure that the operator doesn't get drilled, punched, sawed, sheared, electrocuted, burned, painted, poisoned or frozen that you've come across which were also legally safe to operate (according to OHSA)?

Simply that the program is still running while the machine doors are open seems to be a violation, no?

I only have experience with press operation, but what you're suggesting is illegal and very dangerous - and absolutely inexcusable. Don't forget that you might be writing a production program for someone who isn't quite as capable of keeping their mind in line after a couple thousand cycles.

Also impressive to see the posts agreeing with this technique. This industry is full of monkeys (apparently monkeys who can type too).

Regards,

Robin

Actually I have a job offer from one of my customers. He's looking to turn around 7 million dollars next year. I've helped them in the past with design suggestions and he'd like to have me on the team. It's quite tempting, could be a good opportunity.

Uhm, pot, kettle? LOL.

Unless your name is Jon Banquer....

Pray tell how CAD/CAM is so very vital to restoring vintage motorcycles?

LOL. You are DYING for approval, that's why you keep touting your blogs over and over and over.

If you really wanted to change the CAD/CAM world, and IF you really had good ideas about how it should work, you'd put together a business plan, get funding, and show the world how it should be done. I won't hold my breath though....

Jon

See the monkey in cage comment, I agree wholeheartedly, go beat your chest, you are a pathetic loser. My apologies to the group as well for feeding the troll . Back to work.

You are absolutely correct, that's why I said it works in limited cases.

Particularly high production without robot loader, one tool where cycle time is short but is long enough for comfortable unload, load times, where chips and coolant aren't flying at the operator or surrounding area.

Tom

So you teased a monkey at the zoo like Anderson did and that monkey pissed on you as well. Figures.

Is that what you call spanking your monkey.

Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

Calm down there big guy before you blow a cork.

Not all VMC's, HMC's, CNC Mills, Vertical Mills, Horizontal Mills, CNC Gantry Mills, CNC Routers, Centerless Grinders, CNC lathes, Manual Lathes, Threading Lathes, Tool Room Mills, Tool Room Lathes, Turret Lathes, Chucker style CAM operated Lathes etc. are built with guards and/or door lockouts. Because not all machining operations are inherently dangerous to the operator if operated properly.

I did not say any such thing in the post you are responding to. I made a comment about bypassing the door interlock in another post and if you read it I said everything is OK till someone gets hurt. That is a far cry from indorsing that practice. If a person removes guards and door interlocks they accept responsibility for doing so.

Having experience around punch presses I can understand your being adamant about safety however I haven't nor would I ever propose to short cut or bypass safeties on a punch press.

What I said is it works in limited cases. One case not to use it is if it is possible for the operator to be injured.

DUH!

Apparently you have limited experience as well as reading & comprehension issues.

Tom

Or

Striking resemblance to someone in here!!!

As a follow up, I would never put any operator on a setup that could injure them, Robin, being in a punch press environment, you have every right to make that kind of statement, however for a VMC such as a HAAS VF-0, tapping a single hole in a cast part with a roll tap would not, in my mind qualify as a "dangerous" operation, any more than milling a small flat on a part fresh off the lathe.

Bridgeports and machines like them have been used like that for years, with "Tapmatic" heads and such, without guards, the only difference is the cnc is "doing" the up/down stuff.

Any body that would put an operator on any long running part that is in a dangerous setup, where there would be a chance of being lulled to sleep by the repetition of said part needs to examine how they do things, it certainly wouldn't happen in my shop!

But thanks for the reminder

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