Who is building a gravity machine? You know, something like an electrical
generator. Sound stupid? It is not. Think of it, it took man thousands of
years to find out that rotating a conductor in a magnetic field would create
electrical current. And evidence of electrical current surrounded mankind
the entire time. So what does it take to generate gravity? Isn't it
amazing, not one person on this planet has a clue.
So my young egineers, looking for something to do? Build a gravity machine.
Their are many issues about gravity that scientists don't know about. If
we would be able to create a gravity machine, then we'd be able to
learn more about how it works and how it affects everything in contact
On a science show I was watching "@ Discovery Canada" an epissode came
out by some scientists and they were explaining more than 3 dimentions
as we know it today. If they are correct then they claim that we would
have more than 3 dimentions perhaps way more dimentions than we could
understand at this time.
They have it up to a dozen different dimensions or so now...
loopy thinking imo in many aspects...sort of like slicing an
apple in 12 different sections... proving how each is
different from the next, then declaring there are 12 different
dimensions in which the apple operates...then sending some of
the slices to egypt to prove the point. The egypt slice even
operates in different time zone.
(unless you arrange for the cells in each piece to
communicate, then they communicate with no time delay,
instantly) See earlier NSA experiement reference for that.
In the end we will unify all this to one ultra simple
observation of agregate reality imo...that unification has
long been postulated .... my view is that it will be similar
to what we see with fiber optic signal separation ..one whole,
but divisible into various energy levels... each bit of our
visible universe operating in its own band compatible with
that frequency (or its harmonics).
This begins to be evident in cloud chambers, as sub atomic
particles are de-energized they cease to exist discretely....
the same with anything, even insight, as you change the energy
the host changes or morphs from one existence to another.
It is this instability that we have chosen not to take into
account ...imo... that is slowing up progress.
The human resists change as it sees its current state as
survival..any change in state it sees as destructive of that
state of survival.
all insight creates change, it is resisted...severely
resisted in many cases...
This resistance is simply part of our human condition... less
stability than that and we might not even have survived as a
species... so I'm not whining...we all operate with these
tendencies and limitations... many if not all of those
limitations fully warranted.
( rationality is another issue... if the cave man could found
an A bomb we'd be grass now...or roaches... our genetic line
would have been eliminated)
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:58:14 GMT, Phil Scott postulated the following:
An interesting experiment was done along those lines a few years ago.
Scientists at MIT sliced an apple in half. One half was sent to Egypt,
and placed inside the Great Pyramid. When the first half was spun in a
clockwise direction, the half in Egypt began spinning in a counter
clockwise direction. Afterwards, both halves were carefully examined,
An understanding of physics to its currrent limits is
vital to understanding engineering to that level ...but
physics beyond that.... on the fringe is laden with idiots and
lunatics... a human failing...only after 50 or 100 years do
the viable fragments coallesce into something besides
nonsense.. especially these days.
Maxwell and Planck were light years ahead of us, over 100
years ago, even today in many aspects. There are reasons for
that I believe. Its another topic.
When I was on contract with the USDOE (in the weapons plants)
disinformation was used extensively as a tool to keep everyone
(including no doubt any infiltrating enemy scientists,
confused.. such baloney has not furthered agregate progress).
Robt Openheimer (father of the atomic bomb) wrote a book on
that larger issue 'The Open Mind' 1945 or so... available as
a used book on Amazon.. it is unnerving, especially today...
all this idiocy on basic issues was not generated by accident.
(believing the US govt trash job on Oppie is not real bright
of a person...one must rise above the manipulated level.. the
60 minutes commentary was more accurately revealing)
The practice Oppenhiemer described is putting America
increasingly farther back in the brain race.
Corporate america is not helping with its assumption that they
can hire two $25 an hour half wits, and end up with one fully
witted person as a rule... themselves flunking out of grade
school arithmetic on the subject of multiplying by fractions
.... apparently not part of an MBA's education either that or
these are otherwise corrupted.
the sentient individual in order to survive and prosper has to
step entirely out of that cluster fornication...no small feat
You'd have a better chance getting yourself into orbit by putting your
head between your legs and spitting hard. There's no way someone's going
to be able to build a gravity generator, if that's even possible,
without a good theoretical basis. So you've got it back to front. First
understand gravity, then build the machine.
Yes - but you didn't build it.
At the moment, the best we can do is to bring existing gravity
generators together, thus concentrating their effect in one place. I
don't think I'd call that "building one".
Even you hypothetical "matter generator" would have to generate matter
without requiring a corresponding amount of energy - given that they're
the same thing anyway.
The science is not understood yet. I had presented
though about 10 years ago a set of equations algebraically
derived from E=mc2... high school level algebraic
manipulations more or less.... one set solved from the
viewpoint of a mass accelerating away from a source, and the
other set from the viewpoint of mass accelerating into it
(such as a black hole, and what form the energy would have to
take inside the black hole for it to manifest as it does)...
the two sets of equations reconcile, one to the other in a
common matrix, only with what some have called a graviton
factor is included... then the equations reconcile from both
from other experiments, the NASA experiments with plants for
instance (Secret life of Plants by Tomkins..1972) these
reactions (communications) take place across vast distances
instantly (there are also experiements lately with pairs of
spinning electrons). For this to occur, there has been
postulated a graviton field operating aloof from time. ..or as
I see it operating instantly but not aloof from time. Its
quite likely that my view is the least correct however.
I visualize these phenomena as a racked set of billiard
balls...all touching..so that when one is touched, without
delay the others move. String theory I think is moving in
Col Bearden, in charge of US nuclear weapons deployment in the
late 70's and early 80's (now retired) and as I found out
later in charge of an experiment at LLNRL (Lawrence Livermore
National Labs) that I designed that lab for had been looking
in that experiement for a medium through which thought
traveled (a neutrino field was postulated)... It was a 150'
long liquid helium cooled mass spectrometer with a lazer
impacted source of tritium filled glass beads.. various
screens were fit between the source and target (spectrometer)
to devine neutrino's from the other products of the
disintegration...one of the shields was 50' of lead rod...
nothing but neutrino's would get through that unscathed... any
mass of the neutrino would be deflected, and detected by the
specially designed spectrometer. (those aspects were not
disclosed to me at the time... my guess is that they were able
to detect the neutrino;s but not deflect them...(since then a
mass for the neutrino has been established.)
My view, entirely unproved in all of this, is that we are not
looking at isolated particles in any of this but nodes in
multiple frequency harmnic sets that move as the intersects
change in what the yaqui indian sorcerers call lines of
intent...but also termed unfathomable to humans. So that in
any frequency band here exist phenomena not detectable in or
influenced by other phenomena living in other frequency
bands... a good analogy (but a linear analogy) is seen in
how prisms are used in fiber optics to separate out the
various frequencies carrying differ wave lenths of light...yet
all we can see from the strictly human perspective without
such separation is the white (mixed) light.... yet under that
is this limitless spectrum of carrier wave that can and indeed
is separable into entirely separate signals.
I think the structure of our physical universe is a close
brother to that in a broad range of aspects. When that is
understood we will understand and be able to control
gravity... we are a long way from such a basic level
(the composit has diffuculty seeing through itself to its
component levels, as the composit is dependent on itself and
its structure to exist and percieve).
... there have been some experimentation on some of these
issues in US military labs not entirely unreported. Its
considered lunatic fringe research by more established
science...however established science is still trying to
define its terms and only recently has unified the 9 different
string theories...and thats still a questionable fuzz ball.
We are and remain virtual idiots on a scale of absolutes in
these and many other areas.
The neutrino mass experiment was the brain child of Wolfgang
Stoebel, age 28 at the time (1984), an *east german physicist
(during the cold war no less)... He and I had gone to lunch
one time at the labs dining room and he was eating a ham on
rye, I said you don't think that there is a field through
which thought travels?
He ceased mid chomp..stood up and left...we remained friends
and I finished his project but the subject was never brought
up again... then 15 years later the theory with all the math
and charts appears in Col Beardens book. an entire
chapter.($250 from any bookstore on order)... the purpose was
classified at the time but I didnt know it. It was described
as an experiment to try and find the missing mass in the
We have no faintest clue about the structure of these various
forces...the closest we get so far is in describing the
results of interactions..many of which understandings we
discover later to be in error as well.
... when I was at Texas instruments looking at an electron
microscope scan of a silicon substrate ....that looked like a
carton of slightly fuzzy eggs... I had em print me out a
copy....its rather obvious that the electons are discrete and
tend to be captive of thier host nucleus/s..the math can be
decieving...the exceptions remain a mystery.
We have no clue at absolute levels...we are cave men peering
into the dark across the threshold of limitless potential
The most hopeless of the cave men brag about thier ax....
those with a chance for advance look for thier own errors and
try to come up with a better approach or an entirely different
Well.. mass is supposed to have gravity. And mass that is at higher velocity
is according to einstein to have even more mass. So maybe accelerating mass
in a accelerator circle could generate what you looking for ;)
I read that gravity in string theory/quantum physics is caused by a
"gravitron". If one combine that with a observation that ionizing radiation
(gamma) has the wavelenght of the size of an atom. The atom is affected.
Generating an electromagnetic wave in the same wavelength magnitude as an
gravitron (if theory is correct.. :) might be hard due the ultra short
wavelength needed. But maybe it can be produced by mixing two electromagnetic
waves with a wavelength difference corresponding to the "size" of a gravitron.
And thus affecting the gravitron in some way yet to be determined.. :)
It's all weird hypotheses as it would required lots of physics theory to find
out if there's any chance of it being correct or even working. Besides that
setting such an experiment up would most likely require costly equipment....
Or maybe equipment that is yet to be invented.. or unfeasable.
I already am one!!! My body 'creates' gravity all the time (in small
My mass increases each year though, so each year I 'create' more gravity.
Fortunately, I haven't reached the point where I'm affecting the local field
strength though :-)
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