i'm a first yearite in elec engg,and i have an introductory course in
electronics.but unfortunately my instructor is horrible and i hardly
understand anything in his lectures.
however i'm really interested in learning electronics throughly
,starting for the basics.
i'll be very obliged if anyone could help me ,with respect to the
books that must be referred and the topics that must be specially
mastered,or any advise for a newbie.
the books that my instructor has recommended are:
1.Electronic Devices and Circuit Theory
Eighth Edition
by Robert L. Boylestad, Louis Nashelsky
2.Hayt And Kimmerly : Engineering
Circuit Analysis
3.Microelectronic Circuits by Sedra Smith
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nikhil suri
undergraduate first year
electrical engg
Indian Institue of Technology,Kanpur
Hayt and Kemmerly's book is great, you can learn right from the text, you
don't need a prof for that stuff, just get the section numbers you need to
know. Work your way through the problems in the chapters and do as many as
you have time for at the ends of the chapters. Sedra/Smith's book is
adequate. Do the same thing. The other one I do not know. ECA covers
electrical math and circuit analysis methods and is not particular to
electronics at all. Sedra/Smith gets into electronic devices and electronic
circuits. This seems like way too many books for one introductory course,
seems like you could easily get 3 or 4 courses out of it, including at least
one fairly advanced course.
The topics that must be mastered are all of them that your prof gives you.
They WILL come up time and again, and be expanded upon, before you have your
degree.
Also you might not want to user your real email address when posting, look
around to see what 'tricks' people use. Unless you believe gmail is that
good at blocking spam.
Consider yourself lucky. My first year of EE included NO electronics type
courses, only a very abstract E&M course.
Don't know they other two, but do know this last one, even know where the
office of the authors is...
It's an OK book, the first half is actually quite good, the second half is
not so great IMHO. As a whole it's certainly WAY more then a first year
will have to know, in fact that book served for two courses for me, one in
second year (the first half of the book) and another in third year (the
second half).
Personally I find there is NO substitute for doing things yourself. You
can only learn so much from a book. As a first start I'd say learn how
resistors work, and then buy a few, a volt meter and a 9V battery and try
to duplicate the math. It's funny but something that simple will give you
HUGE insight to some of the more complex stuff to come.
After resistor theory I say move to diodes and then BJTs. Buy a few BJTs
and a few LEDs and hook them up and experiment with that.
After that you really should start getting into AC circuit theory, this is
where the math starts to get kinda funky (imaginary numbers), and
experimentation starts to require more serious equipment (i.e. signal
generators and o-scopes).
Beyond everything I say try and hone your physical skills. It may
not seem like it helps too much on the "book stuff", but trust me,
when you're sitting there in an exam and can't remember the
formula, being able to visualize the situation in your head can
come to the rescue. I still can't remember certain formulas (i.e.
the relationship between wavelength and frequency of radio waves),
but being able to visualize it and remember a few clues lets you
"construct" the formula in your head (that and units, checking
units is a VERY powerful way of confirming a formula is correct).
There's
nothing more sad then a 4th year EE student who doesn't know which end of
the diode is the cathode (had a few of those in my fourth year). TTYL
in article snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com, surismart at
snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote on 9/29/04 11:04 AM:
First start by learning how to write English properly. Capitalize and
punctuate properly. I am talking about inent to do otherwise and not
occasional typos. Then I will go to the trouble of reading more of your
post.
Bill
Now that's certainly uncalled for. English isn't the only language on this
planet, and being able to properly capitalize words will certainly rarely
impact an EE not working in an english speaking country. I think you owe
the op an apology.
IT is perhaps the worlds most advanced and prolific
engineering schools... getting in is a great accomplishment in
itself... if the prof is not communicating see if you can drop
his course and get another professor next time.
On the books... get yourself an 'electronics for dummy's' type
book first. high school level to get just the basic concepts
down without all the complexity first...you can finish that in
a week or two....then with that understood the books he has
recommended should be much more viable for you.
If you want to make money in the engineering business, it will
not happen unless you also get an MBA...then you will do real
well... the rate of pay will double at least and you will be
much much better off going into the management end of the
business.
Phil Scott
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year). TTYL
I am not an EE (ME) but the advice is superb... IT is also
heavy on such things its
a world class school ... unfortunately for American engineers.
Phil Scott
in article snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com, repatch at
snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote on 9/29/04 6:58 PM:
My experience is that engineers write proposals, reports, instructions, etc.
where the reputation of the writer and the employer are at stake. Many
dollars of contracts often depend upon how well such writings are prepared.
Engineers also make presentations to customers as well as technical
audiences. More than once, I just did not read items becasue they were so
poorly written and thought out. If you do not care about such things just
keep on cutting corners.
Bill
Well actually,we don't have to read all of the aforementioned books
cover-to-cover,but each book has been recommended for certain topics.
thanks,i'll do something about it.
Thanks repatch.That was a very helpful post.I guess ,i'll join the
Electronics club in my institute,for they have all the electrical
devices u metioned(CRO and stuff).
Thanks again.
All true, but you missed my biggest point: English isn't the only language
on this planet.
The op mentioned he was in India, I'm certain that with the language he
uses most he has proper grammer. It's english where he isn't 100%, but if
he'll never use much english in his career it simply doesn't matter.
How good is your grammer in languages other then your mother tongue? I
know mine is horrid.
Those are some sweeping generalizations. Many people do just fine with
nothing but a bachelor's in engineering. Statistically I'm sure an MBA does
pay, and pay well. I would not say that pay rate will 'double at least'.
There are even organizations in which specialist engineers can pull in as
much as or more than typical management. Also, 'much much better off going
into management' wouldn't be true if someone ACTUALLY ENJOYED doing
electrical engineering, even if it was for a bit less money. Now normally I
wouldn't even have responded, but if we are giving an impressionable young
mind advice on his career and future then let's don't put it all out of
proportion.
j
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