Modular home wiring - unconventional???

Just from my observations in the area, there are a FEW places where modular homes make sense. These "best" case would be where the manufactured home has features and design that are exactly what you want (the manufacturers definitely can offer a LOT a variety within the basic constraints that the pieces must ship by road) and the local builders have a waiting list. If you do things right, you had put the foundation and underground plumbing in while the home is being built. You can go from vacant lot to custom home ready to move into with 30 days or less.

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John Gilmer
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No way! It took us 90 days just to get the modular out of the factory, then another 13 months for the damned incompetent builder to put it on the lot and almost finish it, and he's STILL not done!

I'd bet that the only ones propagating the myth of the fast modular home that people can make a profit on, are the modluar dealers! Everyone who tries it must loose their asses, which explains why the industry is in the dumpster!

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Grass roots

Odd. I know of two people who have purchased modular homes and from order date to move-in date was approx. 60 days. Sounds like a bunch of "change orders" to me.

Charles Perry P.E.

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Charles Perry

What can I say but that you are now a Poster Child" for "stick built" homes.

If you can't get the house you want on a short schedule, there just isn't much reason to go modular.

I was driving by a neighborhood when a modular home was being put together.

In was a "H" floorplane. The ends were single wide and the center was a double wide. I didn't watch from start to finish but it could not have taken more then two working days to have everything in place. The roof already had singles. There was a little field labor to complete the roof and some internal finishing but ...

Can't say. We used to live near some modular home makers but I don't know how well they are doing.

Year ago when I ran the numbers the modular homes just didn't make any sense for us. But than as now, I just look for the most square feet for the buck. Folks who want "style" might be better served by the modular approach. One advantage is that once the designed is approved the place is built before anyone has a chance to change his (HER) mind.

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John Gilmer

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given that, AGREED. you did shop righteously on the housing product.

do you know who designed it again ???

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Roy Q.T.

Nonsense. I live in a modular that we built in 2000. Closed on land in oct. finished foundation in nov. house arrived on site in four large pieces at beginning of dec. Unfortunately, the weather was against us and we didn't get it setup for several weeks. All interior work done and moved in Feb 1. Total of 3 1/2 months.

In our area, *all* construction is having problems this year because of shortages in wood materials. Stick and modular. Supposedly something to do with Iraq reconstruction and four hurricanes in FL.

daestrom

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daestrom

I've seen some *very* nice modulars, in all sorts of configurations. There are many places they make sense. I don't by your assertion at all.

Certainly. The can make pretty much any "standard" home style, from a cape to a colonial, better and often cheaper than a stick-built. Of course there are crap manufacturers out there, just like crap stick-builders. I have one of the latter. :-(

Not necessarily. Local labor can be very expensive. Modulars can reduce the local labor content greatly.

Sure, I've seen it done, including the stick-built add-on garage. 30 days isn't a biggie for a modular, if they know what they're doing. Of course subs can be problematic on either side of the fence.

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keith

manufacturers

Homes that were already sitting on a lot somewhere & waiting to be dropped on a lot? And were they dropped on a space in a mobile home lot, perchance?

Ours took 90 days to come out of Schult's factory and then 13 months for the idiotic incompetent builder to finish it on our lot, and he's still not finished. We've lost $25k of our former home equity in extra costs because of it.

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Grass roots

Oh there's also the aspect that local governments are biased against them and will give you all kinds of shit along the way, just because of that.

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Grass roots

Here in south Florida we call manufactured homes air pollution. They seem to come "unmanfactured" pretty easy in a storm.

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Greg

That is true: what I understand, & by the way, is very disheartening to "Many" would be New Home Buyers is the fact that Many Localities permit Land Developers [where new Urbanizations have been sprouting] to Create an Ad Hoc Government so that Nobody will steal there Feeling of Household Bliss by Adding, or Bringing up Fancier Than Thou Modeling into "Their" community....

It's just a Shame, I've seen what they Built and what they don't want you to build, it's not like WOW., you model stinks.

We'll just have to move on and find a Land or Developer that is More Open to Change and Variety.I wouldn't put a sinlge Penny of my lifelong into one of those sticky deals., I'm (we're) way too past that.

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Roy Q.T.

Many sub-divisions have restrictions that set the minimum cost of any home to be built and some have rules that when you buy a lot from the developer you MUST built within a certain time but usually the only thing they keeps you from building a "too fancy" house is common sense.

There is, of course, the additional issue of the HOA (Home Owners Association) which can (are often are) quite nasty is the silly rules they can impose. Virginia seems to have a state policy of putting teech into the HOAs. HOAs can legally do what local governments can't since they are "voluntary." Also, some developments effectively put utility and drainage easements over the entire lot. There must be some restrictions or no rational bank would provide financing.

Like it or not, communities with sem-uniform homes have better re-sale results than communities where no two homes are the same. I think what happens is that an "odd ball" home may not sell unless the price drops down to the basement and a low sale price in the neighborhood tends to bring assessments down for everyone.

Most buyers have no intention of staying in one home until they die. They make the very rational decision to buy in a development where the home have a certain variability but nothing sticks out.

I live in an "anything goes" development. We got our place for so little that we could have paid off the mortgage after only 6 years. The medium sized homes are assessed for about 1/2 the value of smaller homes with small lots in newer "regulated" sub-divisions. We enjoy are low taxes and our low mortgage payments but if we had to sell we would envy those in the "proper" sub-divisions.

Well, sport, an "over built" home often becomes a White Elephant. If you want to stay there "forever," it doesn't matter. IF you intend to move on or want to pass on a valuable property to your kids then ...

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John Gilmer

Don't you have planning control over there? Albeit I live in=20 a UK National Park where any addition larger than a (small)=20 dog kennel needs approval and you don't even have a choice=20 about which quarry to get the slate for the roof from but -=20 anywhere else, putting up anything even a little out of the=20 ordinary as a house is very unlikely to get approval. So=20 relatively few houses are built and those that are cost a=20 fortune. Demand far, far outstrips supply.

The net result is the tiny cottage down the road, with a=20 tiny garden, just sold for 240,000 GBP and is having=20

100,000GBP spent on it in repairs. That, in a region where=20 the minimum wage rules and few advertised jobs pay more than=20 =C2=A35.60 an hour. Needless to say, the person buying it is not=20 a local..I don't think that cottage will ever be lived in by=20 a farm hand again..

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Sue

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Palindr☻me

That is the other thing, my fav type home is not even to be considered overdevelopment, just unconventional.

all those comments are valid though

The jpg from this post reminded me of something the The Monolythic Dome Inst. would definetly approve or use.

Is there something you're not saying ? };-)

maybe the receptacles and other devices (motion sensing switchs, timers, etc)are plug in too., i think i wouldn't like uf or romex running through it unless the sheath was hermeticly sealed as well to the boxes. [Leave at least 6" length from the box for splice] and they should have touch dimmers and other choice products too.and an easy removal tool.

Real Estate it is not a short term goal here, even at age, but what you all say is is very illuminating:)

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Roy Q.T.

"Don't you have planning control over there? "

In most of Virginia, the government has some general but easily understood rules. If someone wants an exception he goes before an elected or appointed board but withn the rules you can get a permit for anything. The bureaucrats might tell you on the record that you are making a mistake but if you go by the rules, they give you a permit."

Some places have colonial or ante-bellum homes and there you need to maintain "historical" materials, colors, and even construction methods. But this "historial districts" are well defined and are only a tiny fraction of the land available for development.

"Albeit I live in a UK National Park where any addition larger than a (small) dog kennel needs approval and you don't even have a choice about which quarry to get the slate for the roof from but - anywhere else, putting up anything even a little out of the ordinary as a house is very unlikely to get approval. So relatively few houses are built and those that are cost a fortune. Demand far, far outstrips supply."

What can I say? In "red state" America, the main control is your next store neighbor who may take yor to court. But they have to STOP you. If you obey the zoning restrictions, set back rules, etc and built to "code" you can START anything you want.

"The net result is the tiny cottage down the road, with a tiny garden, just sold for 240,000 GBP and is having

100,000GBP spent on it in repairs. "

Oh, we have expensive homes here. A few months ago, we took a "short cut" through some new sub-divisions in Stafford County, VA. This area is about

35 miles South of Washington, DC.

Anyway, there were many, many $500,000 homes on rather small lots. Local jobs don't pay well, but folks willing to drive to Washington to work do OK. Most of the buyers are two income families."

"That, in a region where the minimum wage rules and few advertised jobs pay more than £5.60 an hour. Needless to say, the person buying it is not a local..I don't think that cottage will ever be lived in by a farm hand again.."

Well, there will ALWAYS be cheap housing. If the government makes it difficult to build cheap housing, poor families end up banding together and rent one expensive home for several households.

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John Gilmer

True, i am glad to see new & exciting opportunities for all class of people to realize their housing dreams.

I'm just a bit lain back, but I'm aware if push i could zap out of here & have em assist me to build My Dream Residence in No Time @ All.

And thanks for reminding me the diplomacy works well.

I am about thinking what answer to give The Failed Neutral Post seems like the same type Animal of the earlier post where the diaghram indicated a COO COO wire Between the Ground and Neurtal Buss I'm not saying anything :-) I think that system is to Loved for Zero., and nobody refreshed on my analysis about the need for that wire.

I don't install those., nor remove them unless I'd want to down grade to

1PHI/220 with appropriate Power Off measures and the wye/delta panel should be left as is or downgraded at the Service Entrance level not at the Main X Panel.

somebody please tell him.

" Jee How Careless ", too bad for the puters., they must be fuming };-D

those slingers better be covered by good insurance ~|:)

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Roy Q.T.

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