ALOA? What a clusterf**k!!!!

Well, I've been waiting for a masterkeying manual for 2 months now. Tried logging in at the site-I don't know how many damn times I have to change the damn login. I've sent emails and gotten auto-responses-" they are sick(ill)" I'm sick too. sick of this shit.

I called about my order. After I gave the guy my name and number several times-finally-"Oh yeah, it's on back order." No idea when it gets there.

PRP sittings-I get the word a week before-I went years without getting any at all.

Oh yeah and the local chapter? I pay 40.00 a year to have two people jumping my ass at the same time because I don't charge 65.00 to open a car locally.

I could spend 155.00 a year alot better than that.

not good mood.

goma.

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goma865
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agree, there are better ways to spend $155.00 a year. we quit ALOA this year.. we haven't heard anything from them in 2004 at all...

Reply to
Key

Yes , ALOA has done it again, They have screwed the membership again

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NASTF information. What do we pay dues for? They raised the dues a few years back for ' legislative action" fees .. now they just bail

I think it is time for All of the ALOA elected officcials to do the right thing and resign ,

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Keyman55

Several years ago I paid a pretty price to get my PRP when they came to town.

I had a class with my association at the exact same time, so I told the guy sitting there (it was Bob if I recall, but it doesn't matter...) that I had a conflict. So he told me I'd get my $75 back (or whatever the hell I paid). I'd have to call the association.

I called several times. Nothing. "We don't have a record of that." Blah blah blah.

Never got my money back, or even a credit for the amount I paid.

Last time I'll deal with that rip-off organization.

Sunsh> Well, I've been waiting for a masterkeying manual for 2 months now.

Reply to
SunshineTeam.net

Locksmithing is dead and even ALOA knows it. Become a plumber. Masterkeying? Talk to Bob DeWeese, he wrote the book.

Reply to
doosey

The only way that will happen is if some of those who are still spending money on membership put themselves forward as candidates and convince people that they can do the job better.

Take your pick. You can quit and let the organization die, or you can get involved in changing it. Either's defendable.

(Me? I've been putting off joining until I'm ready to get serious about the PRP, and it looks like that will be a while.)

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Joe Kesselman

That's like volunteering for the job as captain on the Titanic......after it's hit the iceberg.

Locksmithing is a dead career.

Why? So you can add a couple of letters to your business card?

When I'm looking for a neurologist I interview them, look at education, schooling and certification and the letters after the good doctor's name are important to me.

When I'm looking for a locksmith I...... well I don't..... look for a locksmith that is. I go to a big box center...

Why waste money on some butcher that can barely read, brush his teeth and wash his van once in a while?

I went to the MLANJ show a couple of years ago and when I got home the stench on my clothes was so bad from mingling with locksmiths, most of whom have never heard of soap, that I had to burn my cloths.

Oh, why was *I* there? I run a multimedia consulting firm and I provided sound systems and models (ladies for you slow types) so the coporate suits could run their demos.

I'll never forget this one slimeball from U.S. Lock....the dirtbag was wearing a cheap suit and stank of booze at 11am...

So whoTF cares about a waste of money and time like the PRP? Maybe another locksmith hiring you, but that's about it.

The only people getting fat on the PRP and all the other junk ALOA fences (books, videos, secret decoder rings) are the leaders of AOLA selling all this junk to noob smiths.

It's like Foley Belsaw and others. They lose money on the course but they make it up selling idiot smiths' tools, books and supplies to get their shops going.

Locksmithing = joke...

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doosey

doosey wrote: > Locksmithing is a dead career.

And you're a troll. Plonk.

Reply to
Joe Kesselman

No, he is a locksmithing home study course failure.....

Reply to
cornytheclown

Nobody fails those courses. Reading this and other locksmithing fora (ie:clearstar) is proof positive of that.

Do you think this guy would ever let you down?

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Now this man is a Locksmith!

He has his diploma and professional set of tools!

Just look at those files! You can buy better stuff at "Dollar Heaven". Then again, any course that teaches you how to smoke a key blank can't be all that bad. I've heard about locksmiths shooting blanks, but never heard of one smoking a blank.

FWIW Locksmiths shooting blanks is natures way of preventing them from procreating and poisoning the gene pool.

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doosey

hard to believe anyone is that clueless.. but, knock yourself out troll-boy..

no real need for you to reply. you will just be responding to yourself.

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Reply to
Key

You spelled *plonk* wrong.

With all of the time you spend giving bad advice in alt.locksmithing it's fairly obvious that you are not out servicing locks.

So either you are a trust fund baby, which is doubtful because no debutante would ever go near a locksmith, or you have way too much time on your hands do to lack of job opportunities.

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doosey

That's due, not do. Terrible spell checker.

Reply to
doosey

I'm in north central Indiana, for whoever asked.

Nicholasville is not too far of a drive.

Like I said this could be the last year I am in, so I am going to seriously consider the advantages of getting out.

grave-digging is a dead career-I did it for a while-LOL

goma.

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goma865

Noooooooo. That would be Billy Edwards

BTW - If locksmithing is dead, explain why I had a record year last year.

Now, doosey, let me ask you a serious question...

Apparently, you feel that you've been "wronged" at some point by a locksmith. Instead of all this stupid, childish BS, why don't you just tell us (honestly) what happened to you.

Did you ever think the locksmith that set you off like this, might just be an exception to the rule? Seriously, how many locksmiths have you really met in your life? I can tell you... I have met hundreds. And yes there are some real jerks, but the overall majority of them are decent, honest, nice people.

Sorry you met one of the jerks. Now how 'bout giving the rest of us a break.

Reply to
Bob DeWeese, CML, CJS

I can mention a locksmith that would definitely fall into the jerk category.

I had a customer ask me about an electronic exit device. I know little about these so far.

I did not recommend the other locksmith in my area.

I recomended one about a half hour drive away, who I know has installed and serviced them-and would do a good job,,,,not a hack-job.

goma.

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goma865

There are a handful in every town. It comes down to human nature. There are just some bad people in the world. It's a fact of life. And it only stands to reason that some would become locksmiths, (and doctors, and cops, and teachers, and even pastors)

I once new of a locksmith that had a huge government contractor as an account. They had a problem with a reletively new exit device that had been installed during new construction. He removed it, took it back to the shop, repaired it, cleaned it up, put it back on the door and charged them for a new one. But in my experience (25+ years) he is the exception to the rule.

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Bob DeWeese, CML, CJS

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