"Butterfly knob" safe locks...

todd wrote: > you never sent me an email about a fax # for the govt spec

Recieving faxes is a bit complicated for me; I have to fire up the PC's fax-modem and shut down the answering machine, so basically it only happens for special purposes and at odd hours. (I used to have a better solution running under OS/2, but sic transit Gloria's Monday.)

There's another fax I could have stuff sent to, but that has its own complications -- basically a matter of who owes who a favor -- so I'm somewhat reluctant to do it that way.

And most of that spec is sorta offtopic for my immediate needs; as I say, I'm currently concerned with maintaining one that's basically working despite many years of neglect, and I'm not immediately concerned with maintaining GSA rating.

BTW, I don't think anyone happened to answer whether this thing is key-change or hand-change. I seem to remember a change index on the dial, but as I say, it's been a long time since I looked at one.

key change mosler is the only gsa lock i can think of that used a hand change

Hm. I'm told the label says "M-6730-MP".

Tell me about it. All those people who think 1% of maple syrup added to sugar syrup is good enough... <sigh/>

(For those who don't know: Grade-B maple syrup have less sugar, but more maple flavor, than Grade-A. Good stuff, well worth the cost, but hard to find unless you're in an area where sugar maples are common. I haven't found Grade-C yet.)

u could download the standard in .pdf too...

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Thought it went Grage A (Light, Medium & Dark Amber) then Grade B -- though Grade C is possible. (My memory's not what it was -- or so they tell me, I don't really recall!) Each step is darker and stronger flavored at a given %sugar (%solids?) The lightest comes earliest in the sap run and it darkens to the end. Grading is by comparison for color to standards in small vials. Around here A Medium and A Dark seem to be the common ones.

For safes (and locks) graphite powder washed in with/ WD-40 w/ a little

so will 2 gallons of floor stripper solution poured through the dial.. in a floor safe.

--Shiva--

Thanks for the pointers. Yeah, for me electronic form is easier to handle than fax.

Floor _sealant_ isn't any better. Nor is coke syrup. I've not dealt with either, but I've heard tales...

I wonder if anyone makes a gasketed cover for floor safes which provides some protection against that sort of abuse. If not, that's a Market Opportunity for some ambitious soul...

BTW, S&G has some decent customer-level usage sheets available on their website -- basic instructions for dialing and combo changing -- along with some parts lists and so on. Plus product catalog and retail price sheets.

Some of the tubular i.e. round door ones come with a large plug which fits into the very top of the tube body above the dial/lift out door. Star comes to mind. It will keep out water, contaminants etc.

I posted him a link to a .gov site for serching and D/Ling MIL- FED- and QQ- specs/standards, so I expect he got it from there.

the m-6730 mp is the early model of the 8400 .for the most part the same lock. a rare find to see one still in service

thanks, I know he had problems receiving faxes. but my point was it sucks to spend 20 min. looking up facts and they dont seem to be appreciated, no harm no foul he got the info he needed

Hmmm. Maybe I ought to offer to replace it simply to add it to my collection. <smile/>

Definitely appreciated; it's just more detail than I could easily take advantage of.

you collect????

got an S&G the BOX says..8410 - TOR D41-S&G- B/W DR162 B/W

the papers say.. Sargent and Greenleaf Adjusta-Loc

the papers were revised 5/78..

it IS an MP series lock-so it says on the case.

it does have the little 'butterfly' in the middle of the dial ring..

if you NEED this, for your collection, holler..

its new, BTW. --Shiva--

Perhaps it would be truer to say I accumulate. I'm not a serious collector, but I pick up and hold onto interesting samples when I can do so cheaply.

The shelf opposite my desk has a mounted Mosler MR301 (group 1R), and another Mosler with its matching painted face-plate from circa 1884. (Some cosmetic damage, which is why it was cheap, but it's still a nice bit of functional artwork.) There are a few other items floating around the place; not all of them got unboxed last time I moved.

So, no, I don't "need" a sample of the Adjusta-Loc. Would consider adopting it if it's looking for a home, though. If you want to quote me a price, we can take this offline.