help beginner to choose a pick gun please

Buy one out of a gun magazine you bought at the store. Yes, you can then pick any lock in the world, including Medeco and Abloy. It's incredibly easy. Just do it like on TV.

Incidentally, we don't teach picking on this group, so this advice may not be valid.

you could try lockpickshop.com, or you could learn how to properly pick mushroom pins. they're really not hard at all. take a look around on lockpicking101.com. this group is completely useless for that kind of information.

No. A pick gun is a tool to help those skilled in the art, to get the artwork done. Buying a revolver doesn't turn you into Annie Oakley.

See above.

Practice, practice and practice.

regards Thorsten

no..

imposable..

practice, practice and then practice some more. g'day

in 15 years, and several have tried to tell and show me, I have NEVER picked OR impressioned a Master

an Abus? sure.. have done it both ways..

--Shiva--

That's the idea.

It could be that or it could be you don't know what you are doing or it could be a combo of the two.

I have no idea if YOU can pick it with a pick gun or any other way.

No.

Use the key.

Good advice.

"Useless"? So are teats on a bull. What's your point?

This group is called "alt.lock_smithing_" not "alt.lock_picking_". Why would anyone expect different?

Yes you can-have at 'er-you night screw up the lock.If you are really into picking, stick with the sites mentioned.

Master-Schlage AK47-M16

Damn You!!!!-JK-LMAO

sorry.. its the EQUAL of watching Hank Spicer impression a 6 cut GM side bar ignition.. he could do it all day long.. me? naa..LOLOL --Shiva--

my point is alt.locksmithing is useless for information on lock picking.

yes.. which is why I said it was useless for that _kind_ of information. don't be a jackass.

so a master works in even the most severe conditions and isn't sensitive and prone to failure when parts of lesser quality are introduced, and schlage is over compliated, jams up in less than perfect conditions, and is twice as expensive? damn. I'll stick with the master.

;)

no, didnt SAY that.. I find Masters MORE prone to 'going bad', amd end up force removing a lot.. over an Abus, for Instance..

and schlage is over compliated, jams up in less than

and a Schlage padlock?? never seen one as such.. a SCHLAGE key cylinder in an American, yes..

--Shiva--

well you should have then said schlage - master : AK-47 - M16

(read schlage and the AK are both better than the other)

the direct porting of gas onto the face of the bolt carrier like in Stoner's design, the m16, is prone to failure and picky about conditions and ammunition. the gas operation of Kalashnikov's AK-47 with it's long stroke piston and rotating locking bolt is far superrior as it takes less precise machining, which in turn allows the weapon to fire reliably in all conditions, and will accept any ammunition regardless of quality. accuracy of said weapons is almost identical in combat conditions, however the AK was improved to the AKS-74 which fires a round which has the same external ballistics of the round the Stoner fires. however, the terminal ballistics are quite different, but effective in their own ways.

I've seen Schlage padlocks. Not common, but I have had one or two of them in my hand.

^Or maybe watching Eddie the Wire pick a sidebar?-LOL

Actually, I never have tried the ABUS-I will one of these days. later, goma.

The reason they are not more common is they cost too damn much and other alternatives are stronger and cheaper.

I suspect that they are a tad more common on the west coast.

are they more secure against force and manipulation, or do they just last longer under the same stress?

Check out DSA's Z4-GTC. Basically the same old AR-15 in an M4 16" configuration except with a gas piston system instead of the Stoner system. Other companies are starting to make conversion parts to do the same thing. For example:

the gas operation of Kalashnikov's AK-47

Nope. Bought some Remington PMC 7.62X39 about a year ago that was so out of spec it wouldn't even chamber. Case dimensions were off by as much as 3/8". Extreme example though. It wouldn't have functioned in anything.

accuracy of said weapons is almost

The 7.62x39 has the ballistics of a frisbee compared to the 5.56.

however the AK was improved to the

Or you can just get the AK variant chambered in 5.56. They are out there.

I believe the schlage padlock is still in production, a few years back it was manufactured by New Standard in Las Vegas. Identical lock to the new standard with a schlage logo.