Re: Construction Keying

Why so complex? I once got a look at the janitor's MK at a former employer...6 pin locks on all the doors, and they could all be opened with a penknife.

Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH snipped-for-privacy@myway.com

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Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH
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all be opened

they must not have been installed correctly if they could all be opened with a penknife.

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"Key

The penknife part sounds like an exageration but I think he was saying that each position had the same cut i.e. 333333.

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Putyourspamhere

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he was saying that

after re-reading his comment, believe your correct. my bad.. thought he was maybe going after the latch-bolt with some sort of knife.

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"Key

Exactly. I'm not sure what the cut was, but it was all the same, and they were relatively easy to pick with any straightedge object that would fit the keyway.

Verified on my office and workshop doors, and then shown to one of the execs on his office door...in retrospect, I should've tried to rush my way through a good locksmithing course as soon as I found out, and pointed it out after I could take the contract for rekeying all the offices, workshops, and storage areas in several good-sized buildings.

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kd5nrh

I saw a lot of those when I was doing inspections. I usually just put it in the comments field and pointed it out to the customer later...demonstrating with permission if they seemed skeptical, of course.

I probably gave a few good locksmiths quite a bit of business that way, and financially spanked the guys who were doing it wrong by killing off some repeat business.

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Jim Gaynor

the problem I see in MY particular area is the ##*&#*&% architects...

know it all-we know whats BEST, wont listen to the customer...thats the usual around here...

told a school once, they wanted a Schlage E keyway locks.. MK to be such and such...

did they get it? nope... Archetect said thats STUPID... and gave them something ELSE... the school was ticked when they found out how much to change all the locks to match THEIR system...

--Shiva--

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--Shiva--

Like the building owner mentioned mentioned a while back who had three apartment buildings on a GMK system, each building with its own Maison cylinders - all using 5 pin Dexter cylinders. I wonder how secure these Maison cylinders were.

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Peter

Yes, it is really disappointing that so many new buildings get equipped with lower-end 5/6-pin tumbler cylinders, and not with at least dimple locks with a dozen or even more pin stacks.

What are some thousand $ compared to the total costs for a large building, not mentioning the given away security?!

regards - Ralph

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Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS

The answer is just that. In some cases thousands or dollars. Cost and Convenience vs Security the former two freqently prevail.

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Putyourspamhere

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