Bent spindle

Contact UPS and let them have it repaired professionally?????

dennis in nca

Immediately take pictures, start documenting EVERYTHING, contact the seller, and make a whopper claim to UPS. Sadly, when UPS screws up, they pay the sender, not the receiver, so you will also need to work with whomever shipped it to you. I sincerely hope you paid with a credit card, because in that happy event you can write a letter and explain you were shipped a valueless item and that you do not want to pay for it. This will result in the seller being out the money unless he can collect from UPS, which is exactly as it should be, he not having packaged it sufficiently.

If it were me, I wouldn't even think of trying to fix it. I'm simply move past it while trying to recover my money.

Tough luck!

Grant

This is possibly true, but the bearings in the quill are probably toast at this point. Because b'port used standard SAE bearings which were specially ground for each spindle, it would be very, very tough for him to replace them.

I would strongly urge him to obtain redress from the shipper and seller at this point.

In the meantime, he can use his hardinge milling machine the way I do - sideways! Things mill sideways just fine.

Jim

That was I was hoping. The bottom end runs true, within .0002" The pulsing in the quill feed handle gets worse as the quill gets lower leading me to think that the bend is at the top end. I'm hoping someone in the group has done this or somthing similar. Tom

Why does it seem that you're resistant to the idea of having the shipper compensate you for the concealed shipping damage?

The bearings don't seem to be damaged yet. It runs pretty quiet. I've used it at the lower speeds for a couple of hours. It's working OK, but high speeds are scary.

I've got a claim started with UPS. The guys were here to pick it up and send it back to the factory, whence it came. I chuckled and told them Bridgeport went out of business and the assets were sold twice. They groaned and made a phone call to the inspector to have her come to the shop to look the machine over. They agreed the crate was broken and the spindle was bent. The delivery guys were real nice and helpful, like they were on my side. However they were just delivery guys. The inspector hasn't been here yet.

I have a project that requires my rotary table, the Gatling guns. I tried to figure a way to mount it on an angle plate to do the work with the horizontal spindle. The rotary is a 9" Troyke, it would have taken a huge angle plate and a lot of time to machine it to make it work. Besides I wanted the quill of the vertical head.

Tom

That may be an option. I've already begun the claim process. Tom

I'm not resistant to being compensated for the damage. Why does it seem that way? I've already started the claim process with UPS. Did you miss that post? I need this tool to do my work. I'm looking for help in locating parts that I hope UPS will pay for and help in the process of repairing the head for which I hope UPS will compensate me. If you can help me accomplish these goals I would be eternally grateful. I paid for the head with a check. It's cleared my bank. There is no way I can stop payment. The seller/shipper seams OK. Iv'e informed him of the problem and he is sympathetic. He hasn't offered a refund and I wouldn't either if the tables were turned. Until the UPS inspector looks at the machine, I have no way of knowing what they will do. My limited experience with insurance claims suggest they will blame the shipper for inadequate packing, anything to avoid or minimize payment.

Nah, it just came in after I asked the question, at least as seen from here.

If you would like to have someone with experience straighten the shaft, take it to a good crankshaft shop. They should be able to do it.

Kelley

Excellent idea. I'll keep it in mind. There's a couple gear heads in the building here. They'll know someone. Thanks, Tom

Oops.....I definately missed THAT part..

Why then you not looking to balance it at say 35,000 or 75,000 rpms then ???

Hmmmm...just thinkin I might be smellin a "troll" here....

the little M head does run at 12k.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

Good bit of info then ...........

But my opinion still stands---what exactly could any shipper have possibly done that would aaffect a milling spindle as is it is being discussed here ???

They made a special high-speed version with a flat, rather than V belt. I don't think the regular one goes that fast.

Jim

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in news:DuCdnZ0l45OLZAbenZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@scnresearch.com:

Aren't the "M" heads the older belt driven heads that have the splined quill sticking out of the top? If that's the case that end of the quill is fairly small diameter wise and it sticks our a fair amount. Enough that it could be bent easily.

If it's that end of the spindle I would just take it apart and straghten it using v-blocks, an indicator, and a soft dead blow hammer. If it's the head I'm thinking of, it has to be.. what? 60+ years old? I doubt that you can get a new quill for it and a spindle repair house is going to straighten it the same way.

Hey, FWIW I could be dead assed wrong here--no big deal and I do appreciate any corrections in fact.

I can almost picture that, but where would you mount it? On the mill's table??? If it were mine, I'd hate to swing at it that hard.

Barely broken in?? :)

Bill