Cleaning up the shop

FYI, All that "free" stuff is totally taxable as far as the IRS is concerned.

Why do you think he doesn't use Ebay?

If the IRS wants a flat rate box of cats, I'm sure Gunner will oblige. How do you assess the value of a barter transaction for tax purposes until someone finally resells their side of it?

I can tell you how the State of California does it. They just plop down a big number based on average earnings in various categories and replacement value. Then they sieze and sell everything. Anyone on the other side of the bartered arrangement is liable if the Franchise Tax Board or State Board of Equalization thinks they knew or should have known what was going on. At that point, they start going through those assets and they don't ask politely. They lien and levy. There were a lot of small tool and die shops in the LA area that converted to 100 percent contract work. When the guys that worked for them didn't pay their taxes, those shops suddenly found their bank accounts lighted by the full amount of witholding at single zero. I know one guy that had to close up. A father and two son operation. I worked with one of the sons a couple years after the event.

The State of California can, and does, go where the money is and lets the party's sort things out in court later.

Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on or about Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:42:00 -0800 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

One notices the things one is most familiar with.

I have a collection of photos taken at tech school "What's wrong with this picture?" Pop can held in the chuck by the rim, wrenches left in the chuck - all the things the instructor said we shouldn't do.

- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

An empty bench, like an empty desk is a sign of an empty brain! Gerry :-)} London, Canada

Wouldn't that be CALTRANS rather than CHP?

I resemble that remark.

Some years ago my dear wife said, "Foreman, I cannot abide the mess in the garage". My reply was, "then you should avoid it, my Dear." I prefer to regard it as an "object rich environment". And yes, I do know exactly where everything is.

So how should a pop can be held in a chuck? Being aluminum, one assumes that even a 6 jaw would be a bit much, ?

Gunner

gently!

"Gunner Asch" wrote

Looks like those DA's are getting as expensive as MD's.

Steve

And unopened.

============ While 50% seems high, clearly the actual under and unemployment rate is *MUCH* than the official numbers when the discouraged workers [those whose unemployment benefits have runout] are included. Indeed from the following news items, the "official" unemployment rate continues to increase.

several other media sites.

Unka George (George McDuffee) .............................. The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

and several other media sites.

It all depends on where you ask. Just like those polls they hold at exits of democratic fund raisers. I'd imagine they'd say the unemployment rate is much much lower. There are just so many ways to count it.

Steve

> and several other media sites.

The last time I looked, several months ago, the official California numbers were as high as 35% in parts of the Central Valley. It hardly matters at this point. What is important is the numbers of people EMPLOYED in non-farm labor.

It could be because he wants to hide his income, but it might be because he doesn't have a credit card or Paypal account. Hard to get either of those without a bank account, which a lot of deadbeats like gummer don't have for fear that any money they deposit, even temporarily, will get snarfed up by creditors.

Then they won't waste much time on gummer. Most of the stuff he drags home was destined for the dumpster for good reason. Society's best chance of forcing him to pay his fair share is to mine his subsistence lifestyle by taxing mountain dew, tobacco, monster, and junk food, at

100%. Beyond that they could they could get what he's supposed to be paying in property taxes, by charging him a nickel for each Usenet post. :-)

Wayne

>> and several other media sites.

No, John. You are very wrong. What IS important is if YOU (not you specifically, but aimed at every person who reads this) are working. To me, that's what's important.

And on that point, people who are adaptable and who will change are doing better. Those guys who only will install left front Ford fenders and won't do anything else are hurting. The guys who are willing to make something else happen are generally doing better.

Some of the work I do now I'm not particularly fond of, but I have never had an emotion to turn down the money. ;-)

Steve

Odd hospital that would have a District Attorney doing its diagnoses! ;-)

Yeah, yeah, who really meant PA (Physician's Assistant) In some jurisdictions, aka NP (Nurse Practitioner) Same same.

Last I heard, the new guy had got the old guy a job as an illegal alien serving food in Haiti, or some-such :-)

Mark Rand RTFM