Electrical schematics on Linux?

I never lost any data on my computer.

I take backups very seriously.

I consider backups to be the single most important task of any computer.

Ignoramus12193 fired this volley in news:DsWdnZZKPO2LVEnUnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

"I don't gots no Schema on my 'IX box"... or some such.

Iggy, there are some fine freeware schematic capture packages for WinBlows. I like and use ExpressPCB for prototyping, and love the package for its net capture and interaction with the routing software.

What's keeping you from firing up an instance of WINE, and running something like that?

LLoyd

Expensive compared to geda that's true. Compared to other "pro" grade commercial products, Eagles is still pretty cheap (at least the last time I compared). Besides which, few of the other vendors support either Linux or OSX.

I think that WINE has been overhyped, as a matter of reality most things do not work under WINE, at least as far as I am concerned.

I found gEDA, which works fine as far as I could tell, and did a schematic with gEDA. It was not too difficult. geda can also export to jpeg. I have mastered, perhaps, 0.5% of its functionality.

Here's the schematic:

Atium costs about $30K for 1 seat full capability and two seats of schematic capture. And maintenance after that.

Well their current price for the 'standard' version, which still only gives you a 100 by 160mm routing area, is 500USD without an autorouter and 750USD with. Their unlimited professional version is twice that. That's not pretty cheap in my book. There are plenty of other competitive commercial products out there that are more capable and cheaper.

And then of course there is Kicad, which is open source, free and runs on Linux and Windows.

Cheers

ian

That run on Linux?

The ones used by the "pros" that I know all seem to be in the $10K and up price range, and are all windows-only.

I forgot about Kicad. I didn't have much luck getting Kicad running the last time I tried. That was a couple years ago, so it's probably imporived since then.

The developer of switcher cad claims that it works fine under Wine, for those who are too challenged to understand more than on OS.

I must admit that I've never heard of them before. The "BAE light" at $200 seems to be comparable in limitations to Eagle Light ($50). I couldn't find any specs on "BAE Economy" ($3500), or "BAE Pro" ($8600), but kudos to Bartels for supporting Linux.

Linux support seems to be much more common in Europe (esp. Germany) than here in the US. In some respects, the US is starting to feel like a technological backwater (broadband, mobile phone systems, Linux support, etc.).

In article , Ian Bell wrote: :Grant Edwards wrote: :> On 2009-04-01, Baron wrote: :> :>> Try "Cadsoft's" Eagle its a pcb program but the schematic drawing is :>> brilliant! :> :> On the contrary, it's a schematic drawing program, but the PCB :> layout feature is brilliant. ;) :> :>> Its even better if you want to make a PCB from your :>> circuit ! :> :> It especially convenient if your PCB vendor accepts Eagle :> project files directly (e.g. Olimex). That way you don't have :> to generate gerbers (which is always harder than it should be). :> : : :Except it is rather expensive unsless you only want to make a small PCB.

If it's a small circuit board (1/2 Eurocard max), 2 layers, and a single schematic page, just use EAGLE's freeware license. There's also a non-profit license available at a quite modest cost.

That's too small for most thing other than a simple pic or something.

I think that one of the things Barack may do, is de-emphasise some things like major sucking up to Microsoft etc, and emphasise more weight given to technical development.

If their campaign IT infrastucture is any indication, that will indeed be the case. They used a lot of Macs and Linux.

I probably haven't lost any either but can't find the darn stuff I put in there. I know that just happened to a series of pictures I downloaded the other day. They aren't where I though I put them. :-( ...lew...

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:17:58 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus12193 scrawled the following:

Agreed, but did you from day one? If so, you'd be the first person I've ever met to have done so.

-- You can't do anything about the length of your life, but you _can_ do something about its width and depth. -- Evan Esar

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:17:12 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus12193 scrawled the following:

Ditto here, finally.

Cool.

Smart man!

-- You can't do anything about the length of your life, but you _can_ do something about its width and depth. -- Evan Esar

I did it from day one, yes. Or maybe from the first or second year. But I was fortunate in that I started backing things up before I had any data loss.

I may have lost some latest edits on some file that I was editing, but nothing more than that.

Yes -- but replacing "#!/bin/sh" with "#!/bin/bash" means growing from 9 characters to 11 characters -- so there is not even the chance to replace some with trailing spaces. If the number of characters was critical, it would require also squeezing a couple of characters out of the comments. -- replacing the following "# \n" with just '\n'.

For convenience, mostly. It is in my path, and also has been added to the menus list, FWIW.) And I *think* that it results in one fewer process -- no /bin/sh or /bin/tcsh sleeping until the CAD program exits. As it is, we've got the instance of bash, plust the Java interpreter, plus the program itself. :-)

It does. Even in /bin, so I think that it was part of what came with the main distribution, not with the Software Companion CD-ROM.

And executing it by invoking bash and it from bash (as you suggested) is what proved to me that bash would work while /bin/sh would not -- so I *then* went and edited it with emacs.

Enjoy, DoN.