From New Zealand: Bio-Degradable Bullets

Got this in the email from a friend.

New from New Zealand ? Jacketless, Bio-Degradable Bullets

"In recent years, environmental concerns over lead toxicity have inspired efforts to eliminate conventional lead-based ammunition. To protect endangered species from lead poisoning, California has banned hunting altogether on huge tracts of public land. In other areas which harbor protected species, hunters are forbidden to use lead-core or solid lead bullets. There is an ongoing FDA investigation into the health of venison taken with lead-core bullets. Responding to such concerns, in 2008, Barnes Bullets (now part of the Freedom Group), introduced its MPG? (Multi-Purpose Green) lead-free bullets. These bullets are intended for hunting and for rifle training in locations where lead is restricted."

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read the whole thing.

Way cool.

pyotr

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pyotr filipivich
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Was this, by any chance, dated April 1? ;-)

They've made steel shot for quite some time; presumably from the threat of the ones that miss the bird becoming pollution.

And people have been eating venison for practically ever, and nobody's died of lead poisoning yet.

If the article isn't a gag, then it's probably just a way of separating greenie weenies from their cash. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise

What? They may have died of lead poisoning?

idiotic!

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T.Alan Kraus

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You do note the date-line on that release don't you???? :-) ...lew...

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Lewis Hartswick

both at once."

New 5.56 ammo the US Amy is using is antimony based. Lead is regulated antimony isn't. IMHO about the same toxicity.

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toolbreaker

toolbreaker wrote in news:5d2d60d7-afcc-4fad-a706- snipped-for-privacy@g7g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

Especially when passsing through a vital organ.

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Gray Ghost

Gray Ghost wrote in news:Xns9EBDA9F38F004Wereofftoseethewizrd@216.196.97.142:

Well, that's really the point with 5.56 isn't it? ;)

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RD Sandman

High velocity lead bullets shatter and spread tiny lead particles throughout the venison... presumably poisoning humans and other critters that eat the deer.

Low velocity shotguns slugs don't appear to have this problem.

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Shall not be infringed

RD Sandman wrote in news:Xns9EBD97E66739Ehopewell@216.196.121.131:

I would expect. 8)

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Gray Ghost

I think they were trying to ban donated venison from the soup kitchens in Ohio because of these reports. Except for "nuisance" deer where any firearm is legal, normal deer hunting in Ohio is accomplished with shotguns.

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Shall not be infringed

I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that "T.Alan Kraus" reported Elvis on Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:17:16

-0700 >> There is an ongoing FDA investigation into the

He died of heart stoppage. "Oh, that's too bad, was it quick?" Yep, that usually happens when they take a couple slugs right through the ol' ticker. Stops it right fast."

tschus pyotr

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pyotr filipivich

From a study conducted recently by the Minnesota DNR:

"For centerfire rifle, we used a .308 with 150 grain bullets and five different bullet designs:

  • Rapid Expansion (Ballistic Tip, Soft Point) * Controlled Expansion (exposed lead core, non-exposed lead core) * Non-lead (Copper)

"For the muzzleloader, we used a .50 caliber, 100 grains of powder (2-50 grain Hodgdon 777 pellets) and two different bullet designs:

*245 grain *300 grain

"For the shotgun, we used a 12-gauge and a 1-ounce Foster-style slug

"The ballistic tip bullet (rapid expansion) had the highest fragmentation rate, with an average of 141 fragments per carcass and an average maximum distance of 11 inches from the wound channel. In one carcass, a fragment was found 14 inches from the exit wound.

"Soft point bullets (rapid expansion) left an average of 86 fragments at an average maximum distance of 11 inches from the wound channel. In this research, bonded lead-core bullets (controlled expansion, exposed lead core) performed almost identically to the soft-core bullets and left an average of

82 fragments with an average maximum distance of nine inches from the wound.

"Shotgun slugs left an average of 28 fragments at an average maximum distance of five inches from the wound channel. Muzzleloader bullets (245-grain and 300-grain respectively) left an average of three and 34 fragments, respectively, at an average maximum distances of one and six inches, respectively.

"A key take away message from the study is that given fragments were found so far from the exit wound, routine trimming likely will not remove all of the fragments and DNR cannot make a recommendation as to how far out trimming should occur."

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North Dakota has done some extensive studies:

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Lay off of ground venison, is the general conclusion. ND found lead pieces in around 10% of their venison samples. Don't feed it to kids or women who are or want to become pregnant.

Otherwise, for adults, all it will do is make you stupid, deaf, and infertile. This does explain a lot. d8-)

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Ed Huntress

So, howcome nobody's ever heard of anybody being killed by eating venison?

Thanks, Rich

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Rich Grise

Shall not be infringed wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@j13g2000pro.googlegroups.com:

Plus they tend to clear out the brush between you and your venison. A .50 Beowulf or .458 Secom tend to do the same.

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RD Sandman

"Ed Huntress" wrote in news:4d9ab62f$0$4871$ snipped-for-privacy@cv.net:

Particularly don't feed it to your kids who are or want to become pregnant. ;)

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RD Sandman

Right! And as for the "stupid, deaf, and sterile" part, after the first two, the third probably is a good idea. d8-)

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Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in news:4d9b6180$0$29275$ snipped-for-privacy@cv.net:

;)

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RD Sandman

What explans your behavior? Gnawing on D&D pewter figurines?

Only if they hear a loud noise and feel a sharp pain followed by profuse bleeding.

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Shall not be infringed

Brilliant humour!. April fool. I'm from NZ and often visit Whanganui. No such firm as "Bio-Bullets", more's the pity. The MacDiarmid Research Institute does exist, but not in Whanganui. The other names mentioned are variations on names well known in NZ-- but not in connection with the production of "Bio-Bullets".

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Roger_Nickel

snip -

What a shame - I was so looking forward to shooting animals multiple times to "make them healthier"

Peter DiVergilio "A bumblebee flies faster than a Kubota tractor"

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Peter Divergilio

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