Hear! Hear!
One need not agree with Gunner to recognize that however irritating he is that he is, at any rate, one of us. Even if he were not, proponents of "socialized medicine" should realize that, at the moment, support, rather than attack, is what Gunner needs. Otherwise the cost of healthcare increases slightly for all...
Al Moore
I find it surprising that all these factors did not affect you rblood lipids.
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Your galled? Gosh, that isn't very nice. You're not up to Mr. May's callousness, though. Sue
Good to hear you're okay... a visit can happen yet then ;-)
Tim
Hello, Santa! You wrote on Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:26:10 GMT:
Oh s*it! Another american who thinks Africa is a country!
??>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:06:16 GMT, Gunner ??>> wrote: ??>>>
??>> ??>>
??>> Welcome back, Gunner. ??>>
??>> I had no doubt at all. ??>>
??>> Nor do I see any need to coddle a tough son-of-a-bitch like you: ??>>
??>>> That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or ??>>> labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see ??>>> that it stays there. - George Orwell ??>>
??>> No. Rifles are the symbol of brutal conquest, which is just a fancy ??>> term for armed robbery on a large scale. ??>>
??>> Ballot boxes are the symbol of democracy. ??>>
??>> There are a WHOLE lot of people with a LOT of weapons that ??>> don't have any democracy...Not a ballot box in sight. ??>>
??>> Duh. ??>>
??>> :-) ??>>
??>> Does America's violence around the world create democracy? Try ??>> this little quizz: ??>>
??>> It consists of one (1) multiple-choice question. Here's a list of the ??>> countries that the U.S. has bombed since the end of World War II, ??>> compiled by historian William Blum: ??>>
??>> 1. China 1945-46 ??>> 2. Korea and China 1950-53 ??>> 3. Guatemala 1954 ??>> 4. Indonesia 1958 ??>> 5. Cuba 1959-1961 ??>> 6. Guatemala 1960 ??>> 7. Congo 1964 ??>> 8. Peru 1965 ??>> 9. Laos 1964-73 ??>> 10. Vietnam 1961-73 ??>> 11. Cambodia 1969-70 ??>> 12. Guatemala 1967-69 ??>> 13. Grenada 1983 ??>> 14. Lebanon 1983, 1984 ??>> 15. Libya 1986 ??>> 16. El Salvador 1980s ??>> 17. Nicaragua 1980s ??>> 18. Iran 1987 ??>> 19. Panama 1989 ??>> 20. Iraq 1991-2003 ??>> 21. Kuwait 1991 ??>> 22. Somalia 1993 ??>> 23. Bosnia 1994, 1995 ??>> 24. Sudan 1998 ??>> 25. Afghanistan 1998, 2001-2004 ??>> 26. Yugoslavia 1999 ??>> 27. Iraq 2002-2004 ??>>
??>> Q: In how many of these instances did a democratic government, ??>> respectful of human rights, occur as a direct result? ??>>
??>> Choose one of the following: ??>>
??>> (a) 0 ??>> (b) zero ??>> (c) none ??>> (d) not a one ??>> (e) a whole number between -1 and +1 ??>> (f) zip ??>> (g) squat ??>> (h) nada ??>>
??>> AC
SCM> Ok Everybody.. sing along with the oscar meyer weiner song:
SCM> Oh I wish and was liberal like AC.. SCM> that is truely what I'd like to be ee eee SCM> And then I take the guns awaayyaa SCM> And give them to the big bad goverments...
SCM> How many tyranical goverments maintain control over their citizens SCM> with guns and violent weapons? How many goverments keep the citizens SCM> in check and subject to their laws and judicial systems with guns???
With best regards, ahlbebuck. E-mail: snipped-for-privacy@saftour.co.zar
Hello, The! You wrote on Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:57:54 -0700:
Where'a america to stop these slaughters? Oh yeah I forgot - there's no oil! and there's too much potential corporate profit in China! Can't hit the Chinese, who's gonna make Nikes and just about all else you yanks consume.
TI> Alan Connor wrote: ??>>
??>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:00:13 -0700, The Independent ??>> wrote: ??>>>
??>>> Alan Connor wrote: ??>>>>
??>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:06:16 GMT, Gunner ??>>>> wrote: ??>>>>>
??>>>> ??>>>>
??>>>> Welcome back, Gunner. ??>>>>
??>>>> I had no doubt at all. ??>>>>
??>>>> Nor do I see any need to coddle a tough son-of-a-bitch like you: ??>>>>
??>>>>> That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or ??>>>>> labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see ??>>>>> that it stays there. - George Orwell ??>>>>
??>>>> No. Rifles are the symbol of brutal conquest, which is just a fancy ??>>>> term for armed robbery on a large scale. ??>>>>
??>>>> Ballot boxes are the symbol of democracy. ??>>>>
??>>>> There are a WHOLE lot of people with a LOT of weapons that ??>>>> don't have any democracy...Not a ballot box in sight. ??>>>>
??>>>> Duh. ??>>>>
??>>>> :-) ??>>>>
??>>>> Does America's violence around the world create democracy? Try ??>>>> this little quizz: ??>>>>
??>>>> It consists of one (1) multiple-choice question. Here's a list of ??>>>> the countries that the U.S. has bombed since the end of World War ??>>>> II, compiled by historian William Blum: 1. China 1945-46 2. Korea ??>>>> and China 1950-53 3. Guatemala 1954 4. Indonesia 1958 5. Cuba ??>>>> 1959-1961 6. Guatemala 1960 7. Congo 1964 8. Peru 1965 9. Laos ??>>>> 1964-73 10. Vietnam 1961-73 11. Cambodia 1969-70 12. Guatemala ??>>>> 1967-69 13. Grenada 1983 14. Lebanon 1983, 1984 15. Libya 1986 16. ??>>>> El Salvador 1980s 17. Nicaragua 1980s 18. Iran 1987 19. Panama 1989 ??>>>> 20. Iraq 1991-2003 21. Kuwait 1991 22. Somalia 1993 23. Bosnia 1994, ??>>>> 1995 24. Sudan 1998 25. Afghanistan 1998, 2001-2004 26. Yugoslavia ??>>>> 1999 27. Iraq 2002-2004 Q: In how many of these instances did a ??>>>> democratic government, respectful of human rights, occur as a direct ??>>>> result? Choose one of the following: (a) 0 (b) zero (c) none (d) not ??>>>> a one (e) a whole number between -1 and +1 (f) zip (g) squat (h) ??>>>> nada ??>>> (i) who cares? ??>>>
??>>>> AC ??>>>
??>>> The object is to stomp them so hard the first time that they wont ??>>> want to mess with us again. Fear is the best motivate, ask a Zebra ??>>> running from a lion. ??>>
??>> Better yet, visit Israel, where they follow your strategy assidiously. ??>>
??>> Wonderful place: Frightened and angry youths with automatic weapons on ??>> every corner and not a safe place in the entire country. They also ??>> have a military that is immensely superior to that posessed by their ??>> enemies and have killed at least 10 of them for every ??>> Israeli casualty. Yet they have no peace and no security. You can talk ??>> to zebras if you want. I prefer to observe human behavior and its ??>> results and draw my conclusions from those observations. AC
TI> The problem is the Israelis haven't got over their own trauma of the TI> holocaust. If they would just slaughter 20 million or so rag heads TI> they wouldn't have any problems.
TI> And if you think the world is going to say any thing, think again. TI> Where was the world when Lenin slaughtered the 10 million or so in TI> Russia? TI> Where was the world when Stalin slaughtered 22 million or so in Russia? TI> Where was the world when the turks slaughtered 6 million Armenians? TI> Where was the world when Mao, slaughtered 80 to 90 million in China? TI> *As many as 20,000 to as high as 50,000 are still being killed annually TI> in communist China today. TI> Where was the world when Ho Chi Minh took over S.E. Asia in 1954 and TI> killed another 2 million or so? TI> Where was the world when Castro slaughtered 500,000 out of population TI> of 6 million in Cuba? (and its still going on today) TI> Where was the world when Daniel and Umberto Ortega slaughter 250,000 in TI> Nicaragua? (Until Ronald Reagons contras drove them from power and they TI> had to settle for a democratic election which they couldn't rig and TI> Violetta Chamoro won hands down. TI> Where was the world when Pol Pot Slaughtered 2 million in Cambodia? TI> Where was the world when Idi Amin Slaughtered 1/3 million in Uganda? TI> Where was the world when for the 50 years of rape, cannibalism, and TI> slaughter in the congo that may have killed as many as 15 million? TI> (500,000 were killed between 1998 and 2002 alone) TI> Where was the world when the Huttus slaughtered 2 million Tutsies in TI> Rwanda? TI> Where was the world when Robert Mugabe killed 2 million in Zimbaube TI> and is sill killing 20,000 to 30,000 a year? TI> Where was the world when the Islamic Indonesians were Slaughtering a TI> million Christians in East Timor? TI> Where is the world when the Islamic Sudanese have slaughtered 2 million TI> Christians and enslaved (yes there is modern slavery) in the Sudan? TI> The we have the slaughter of innocent civilians in Lebanon, Bosnia, TI> Chechnia.
TI> Hate to break it to you Alan but 99.5% of the slaughter of innocent TI> Civilians in the world since 1900, has had nothing to do with the TI> United States.
TI> The Independent of Clackamas County, Oregon
TI> "The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of TI> speeches and majority decisions ... but by iron and blood."
With best regards, ahlbebuck. E-mail: snipped-for-privacy@saftour.co.zar
Take you long to figure that out?
CC
Izzat really Tim May? He sure don't look like no conservative! 'specially that shirt! I got me some shirts like that, and a belly to match, but not the politics. Eric R Snow
Yes, as far as I can tell. Here is a labeled picture from the same website:
Looks like a nice person. Looks can be deceiving.
Presumably you have some humanity about you. :o) Sue
Hello, Condor! You wrote on Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:19:10 -0500:
not as long as those starry eyed yankers who think they're God's gift to democracy!
??>> Where'a america to stop these slaughters? Oh yeah I forgot - there's ??>> no CC> oil! ??>> and there's too much potential corporate profit in China! Can't hit ??>> the Chinese, who's gonna make Nikes and just about all else you yanks ??>> consume.
CC> Take you long to figure that out?
CC> CC
With best regards, ahlbebuck. E-mail: snipped-for-privacy@saftour.co.zar
When I was in the Marine Corps. I was told I had VA hospital benefits the rest of my life. It is not only for service connected health problems. Another alternative is to give up your American citizenship, and become a Mexican citizen. That way you can go to any hospital in the United States for free. You can collect emergency SS payments of about $800 a month, food stamps, freebies from local churches and hispanic political organizations, and you don't even have to have car insurance or pay taxes! If you can convince a Border Patrolman to shoot you in the foot, you will be a millionaire.
Shuckie duckies. I didn't mean to be insulting to anyone with dyslexia. I'm sorry. I took it for a typo as I'm pretty sure that's what it was. I make them all the time but try to edit myself, but I'm kinda fussy that way. When one's posts lack content as mine usually do one should as least type and spell correctly. Now, if I could just get punctuation down pat. I'm in the (evidently bad) habit of having fun (only my own, I guess) with typos when they change the meaning of a sentence. Sue - Bitch :o(
Smirk. So go try to get real treatment at a VA hospital, with only a
3-year hitch, and without convincing them that your treatment is for a service-related condition.You really thought that your hitch gave you a GI Bill _and_ a lifetime of free medical care?
I guess this explains a lot about why they're called jarheads.
--Tim May
Now there is certainly a beacon of light in the darkness.
mikey
That pic is really for sale?! So, who is in the pic? Looks like some of the "jelly people" to me.
mikey
On 19 Jun 2004 13:49:31 -0700, jim rozen shouted from the rooftop:
It's always a pleasure when the survivalist whackos show up.
-Carl "If you don't have enemies, you don't have character"-Paul Newman
We'll see whose obit appears first.
But, I'm glad for you that Gunner has now fully left the libertarian/freedom orbit and is firmly ensconced in the welfare/socialist/gimmiecrat orbit.
Perhaps you can help him with the paperwork for Kern County and for Sacramento to get his bastard son more bennies, that son's girlfriend more bennies, his ex-wife (or is she his wife again?) more bennies, and the whole trailer trash set more Section 8/AFDC/WIC.
At least we can never again listen to Gunner expounding his Heinleinesque cant without bursting into laughter.
--Tim May
Plonk. Damn, Gunner. Your coming back sure flushed a bunch of wackos. That's the fourth today. I feel like I stepped in a covey of quail.
Pete Keillor
I suppose Switzerland with every male citizen over the age of 18 issued a machine gun is a brutal dictatorship without a ballot box in sight also.
So you think any superpower, past or present, is/was any different?
Don't kid yourself.
"Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Wasn't a "Yanker" who said that...
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