Gunner: I'm back

For those of you who emailed or wished me well, many many many thanks.
Im very touched by the concern of everyone. Its good to know Im
either well liked, or for those who dont, they didnt want a thread
opponent to disappear
A bit of an explaination of what very unexpectedly happened to "good
ol hard as a rock Gunner". (ouch..sigh)
Saturday last, I had gone to Bakersfield to pick up an Old Crystal
Lake grinder for a gent, who is coming in from Salt Lake City to pick
up in the next week or two. Getting it home in mid afternoon, (around
105F, 30% humitity) I unloaded it using the Armstrong Method and the
few gadgets I have for moving Stuff around the back yard. This
involved a lot of gut busting grunting and groaning, and I stopped to
take a break. I noticed I was getting what felt like heart burn, and
it was getting a bit hard to ignore..so took a big shot of Pepto
Bismo. The pain went away. So I went back outside and kept on moving
Stuff. Pain came back. Pepto didnt help. So thinking fast, I dropped
a couple of my wife's nitro pills, and the pain went away. Cool. So
thinks me..time to take it easy. And I did, all Sunday..just did minor
bits and things. No problems all day.
I got ready to go to LA Monday morning, and went to bed. At 5:30
am..my chest woke me up. Pepto didnt work. The first nitro did..for
a short time. Then it came back. Worse. The second and third nitro
slowed it down..for a short time..then it came back..really bad.
Now while Im just a simple harmless fuzzball, I do have a high pain
threshhold....and I was rapidly reaching the high end of it. The wife
demanded we head to the hospital in Bakersfield (45 miles away), so I
dropped 3 asprin, another nitro and off we went like a bat out of hell
with her driving.
By this time, I was bent over in the front seat, scared shitless, and
praying hard that this was not a heart attack . I was a bit confused
as I only had about 1/2 of the symptoms of a MI, but it was really
hard to ignore that white hot chunk of 3" diameter CRS that the 500lb
elf was trying to drive into my chest and out my back (and he was
doing a really really good job of it). About half way there..the pain
started to abate a fair amount...but I was still twitching bad..
Getting to the country hospital in Bakersfield, she dragged me into
the ER..and plopped me down and got some help. First thing they did
was give me an EKG. Hummmm no signs of a Heart Attack (MI) though it
was giving wierd readings. Enough that they called a Code and got me
into treatment.
To cut through the bullshit of the next couple very painful and
miserable days, much of which is mercifuly veiled with a drug filled
fog....
My cloresteral was perfect
My blood pressure was in the high normal range
My blood enzemes were showing something was screwed up.
My heart beat never got any higher than 66 beats per minute (more on
this later)
The periodic returns of the pain was stopped by nitro and morphine.
Lots of nitro, and lots of morphine. Ill blow up a piss test for the
next year...
Damned shame Ive become allergic to Demeral....morphine only works so
so with me..shug
I had a text book worst case example of Unstable Angina.... While
knowing what it is..there isnt much comfort knowing the name of that
500lb elf with the white hot spear in your chest...
They ran a bunch of tests, chest x-rays (nothing wrong showing, other
than a slight possible enlargement of the heart) and Wed they decided
to give me a angiogram. This is where they strip you naked, shave all
the hair off your balls and groin, and hack into your right femoral
artery, then run a teeny wienie hollow tube all the way up into your
chest and inject dye into your heart , all the while watching the
process under a xray sort of machine, all on real time video (and
saved to CD).
Bingo!
My right coronary aorta
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was 95%
plugged off, another one (cant remember ALL the names) was 50% plugged
off, and 5 more on the left side of my heart were up to 50% plugged
for a grand total of 7 blockages. Keep in mind..that my colesteral
levels were absolutely perfect and all the tests showed the heart
itself was perfect (though beating slowly) and my BP was in the high
normal/low High range.
My blockages were, in effect worse than my wifes blockages. Big
difference..Id managed to avoid a heart attack with the nitro and
asprins and there was no heart damage. (whew.....prayer? Knowing what
to do because Im a survivalist? Damned good luck? Shrug)
An interesting side note..to close the hole in the femorial artery
they made..they clamp it closed and you down to the table with this
big assed C clamp for an hour or so, then clamp your leg down for the
next 10 hours so the artery doesnt blow out and you bleed to death in
a couple minutes in your bed. Its actually better than it
sounds..morphine..lots of morphine....
The next day, Thursday, they moved me to another hospital, one
specializing in this sort of problem and did a ballon cathederization
and installed a stent in the big artery. This will keep the artery
from going bad again. The specialists say the other areas will sort
themselves out if I stay on their pill and eats program and I was
damned lucky that I was in excellent health otherwise and had avoided
the heart attack.
(.200 stent, expanded to .375 at 40psi, if my reading the report
upside down was correct. Stent is a new style, treated with a baked
on anti-plaque chemical that is supposed to prevent any new yuckies
from building up in that area. I got the owners manual and warranty
for that puppy! )
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Here is what an angioplasty is all about
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Oh..and I will be quitting smoking (or trying really hard) as I need
lead a bit more healthy a life style. Shrug..this is gonna be a total
bitch and will likely be harder than undergoing the other stuff..I
have quit 14 times before...sigh...
The upshot of this whole thing is..I will be ok in a few weeks at
most,, and probably in better shape than in the last couple years or
longer. Ive noticed a distinct tendency over the last couple years to
not be as active as I was before..due to "running out of steam". I
wrote off a lot of this as simply ageing. I also noticed that Id get
wierd feelings now and then from the right center of my chest..kind
of a tickle, over the last couple years..also writing them off to
aging. Big mistake, which fortunately I was lucky to be able to
recover from. The only other problem that Ive got and it may be
genetic (my mom had this later in life) is that my heart never speeds
up much past 60-70 beats per minute. I could be running around the
block, and drop to my knees as the heart is not speeding up to pump
increased blood and O2. Ive noticed this over the last year..and while
I knew this was a problem..was unable to do anything about it.
Priorities....shrug. There is some conjecture that this may have
caused a plague build up due to no big speeding up of the heart and
blood flow..or the other side says it was the result of plague caused
heart damage. Shrug..Docs say it may correct itself in the next few
weeks, or Ill simply have to learn to live with it. I was wondering
why I couldnt boink for hours anymore..thought I was just getting
old
Angina or the early stages of a heart attack are hard to distinquish
from "heart burn" for the average person.
Most guys (like myself) tend to be in denial that it could be
something serious. The coroner often times finds a belly full of
PeptoBismo/Tums or other antacids when doin the autopsy of the people
that dont make it to the hospital and are found dead at home. Dead of
being stubborn. I damned well could have been one of them.
Id strongly suggest reading this link for the various warning signs...
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As to how Im gonna pay for all this..I dont have a clue..but Ive a
number of options, from various country and state programs to long
term payment plans, to working with the VA. Im starting to explore
the options.
At least..Im alive to deal with the issue..and Im worth far more alive
than dead.
I STRONGLY recommend to anyone over 40, that you get a good heart
health check up now and then. Some of the screenings may be free, or
darned cheap. If this could happen unexpectedly to me..it damned well
could happen to anyone.
Again..many thanks to all of you who expressed concern. Im very
touched and heartened by your best wishes. Even those emailed by
Snibbles .....
Respects and deepest regards to the members of the Usenet communtiy
who have emailed and posted. Im deeply touched and it gives me a
very warm feeling.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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Gunner
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Great to hear you're ok . (Don't scare us like that again!) Schon
Reply to
sheerluck holmes
Hell, no. That's what keeps these machining and metal groups interesting (for me). :o) Glad you're back. Take care of yourself!!! Sue
Reply to
Sue
I wish you a speedy recovery. Sounds like what happened to me in '99. Funny thing, I was simply drinking a glass of orange juice when the pain hit. After the Pepto, my wife recognized it as a heart attack and I was white and sweaty, lots of pain, etc. She drove me seventeen miles to a small town hospital, keeping me talking and awake. The hospital had a a one bed ER and no trauma personnel. The local ER doctor had called in sick, and it was the second weekend duty that year for the replacement doctor, who happened to be a young surgeon from Mayo Clinic. I staggered in like I was stabbed in the gut. I passed out as the nurse said "40 over 20." This doctor saved my life and my heart, I came back among the living and got a helicopter ride to a heart hospital where they put a stent in. I had one clogged artery on the right side,(the widowmaker) and it had closed. BTW, that morphine is pretty good stuff. The upside of having the knowledge you now have, is that you probably won't ever have another heart attack. It takes a few months to get used to the strange pains of healing inside, and the light headedness from the medication. Remember to breath deeply, relax and rest, and thank God when you get the chance. John
Reply to
Mark Allread
I knew that you would ride this one out,
Welcome back.
Strider
Reply to
Strider
Welcome back, Gunner.
I had no doubt at all.
Nor do I see any need to coddle a tough son-of-a-bitch like you:
No. Rifles are the symbol of brutal conquest, which is just a fancy term for armed robbery on a large scale.
Ballot boxes are the symbol of democracy.
There are a WHOLE lot of people with a LOT of weapons that don't have any democracy...Not a ballot box in sight.
Duh.
:-)
Does America's violence around the world create democracy? Try this little quizz:
It consists of one (1) multiple-choice question. Here's a list of the countries that the U.S. has bombed since the end of World War II, compiled by historian William Blum:
1. China 1945-46 2. Korea and China 1950-53 3. Guatemala 1954 4. Indonesia 1958 5. Cuba 1959-1961 6. Guatemala 1960 7. Congo 1964 8. Peru 1965 9. Laos 1964-73 10. Vietnam 1961-73 11. Cambodia 1969-70 12. Guatemala 1967-69 13. Grenada 1983 14. Lebanon 1983, 1984 15. Libya 1986 16. El Salvador 1980s 17. Nicaragua 1980s 18. Iran 1987 19. Panama 1989 20. Iraq 1991-2003 21. Kuwait 1991 22. Somalia 1993 23. Bosnia 1994, 1995 24. Sudan 1998 25. Afghanistan 1998, 2001-2004 26. Yugoslavia 1999 27. Iraq 2002-2004
Q: In how many of these instances did a democratic government, respectful of human rights, occur as a direct result?
Choose one of the following:
(a) 0 (b) zero (c) none (d) not a one (e) a whole number between -1 and +1 (f) zip (g) squat (h) nada
AC
Reply to
Alan Connor
Gunner:
Fascinating procedure, wasn't it? I remember hearing surgery of that sort compared to an auto valve job, except that you had to do it with the engine running.
You'll feel better in a couple of weeks than you have in years. According to my doctor, there is little chance of any new heart problems due to the drugs they'll have you on. They did watch the stents pretty carefully for the first month or year, but the new drug-coated ones are better than what I had.
Don't recall them shaving my balls, though. Is it possible that cute male nurse just took a liking to you?
Doesn't the VA cover you on this?
John Martin
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JMartin957
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Welcome Back Gunner
Mike
" A bullet in the foot first warning, next the thigh, then a good chest shot... then between the eyes" Little Gunner
Reply to
Santa Cruz Mike
Ok Everybody.. sing along with the oscar meyer weiner song:
Oh I wish and was liberal like AC.. that is truely what I'd like to be ee eee And then I take the guns awaayyaa And give them to the big bad goverments...
How many tyranical goverments maintain control over their citizens with guns and violent weapons? How many goverments keep the citizens in check and subject to their laws and judicial systems with guns???
1. China 2. Korea 3. Guatemala 4. Indonesia 5. Cuba 6. Guatemala 7. Congo 8. Peru 9. Laos 10. Vietnam 11. Cambodia 12. Guatemala 13. Grenada 14. Lebanon 15. Libya 16. El Salvador 17. Nicaragua 18. Iran 19. Panama 20. Iraq 21. Kuwait 22. Somalia 23. Bosnia 24. Sudan 25. Afghanistan 26. Yugoslavia 27. Iraq 28 USSR 29 Africa 30 USA 31 Canada 32 Mexica 33 Chile 34 Japan 35 Taiwan 37 Brazil 38 England 39 Israel 40 Palestine 41 Venuzuala and so on and so...
Reply to
Santa Cruz Mike
Wait a minute, you self prescribed nitro, found it effective and didn't exceed all legal speed limits on the way to the hospital? Damn it, Gunner, you are insane.
Reply to
John Keeney
That's why I called him a *lucky* bastard instead of a *smart* bastard. BTW, I made a worse mistake than he did. I waited until I was having my 2nd heart attack before I waltzed into the hospital to complain about an ache in my chest and crippled-up arm.
Lg
Reply to
Lawrence Glickman
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Glad to see you back. Best wishes. Steve
Reply to
Sven
Welcome back Gunner. You got real lucky sir!!
--George
Reply to
George
Glad to see you back Gunner. You had us worried there. Something happen to you and I wouldn't have anyone to argue with. :-)
Excelent post BTW. Probably the most informative you have made in years. Made me start thinking about getting an appointment for an exam.
Reply to
Glenn Ashmore
Gunner, get some Wellbutrin pills to help with quitting smoking. my Wife & I that smoked for 40 yrs (2 packs a day) quit with the help of that this March.
Reply to
Why
Best to you Gunner! Michael
Reply to
Michael
Insane? No. In denial? Yes.
Sigh
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. - George Orwell
Reply to
Gunner
Glad you're back, get well.
Pete Keillor
Reply to
Peter T. Keillor III
Gunner, I'm glad to see you back, and best wishes on a speedy recovery. When you are back in action again, and somewhat financially stabilized, it might be time to build that special hoist trailer I described. We're all not getting any younger.
Get well buddy, RJ
Reply to
Backlash
(i) who cares?
The object is to stomp them so hard the first time that they wont want to mess with us again.
Fear is the best motivate, ask a Zebra running from a lion.
The Independent of Clackamas County, Oregon
"The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions ... but by iron and blood."
(Otto Von Bismarck, Speech, Sept. 30, 1862.)
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