I went to a school (machinery) auction

I have this ongoing nightmare that at some point we're going to collectively realize that we really _do_ need to do manufacturing to thrive, but everyone who knows how will be in rest homes or underground.

I sure hope I'm wrong.

I bet you are not.

Machinery and cars are the same: you covet what you couldn't have when you were in high school. If you had machine classes in HS, you would want to buy some when you have both the money and the time.

My local HS took out ALL of the 'Technology' (sh> For years I have wanted to go to a school auction - kept hearing about

Nobody under 50 knows what the equipment is even FOR, muchless how to use it.

I have a couple of restored minilathes from the 1930s sitting in my library area. Nobody under 50 even notices them.

you gotta be kidding me.

Not true. I'm 39 and I know what the equipment is for, how to use it, and own a fair amount of it (ever growing).

Tim sez:

"I have this ongoing nightmare that at some point we're going to collectively realize that we really _do_ need to do manufacturing to thrive, but everyone who knows how will be in rest homes or underground."

Yep! It goes right along with the MIS - MIT group in the future when they want to really build a computer; only to find out the last old guy that understood Ohm's law died the week before.

Bob (software ain't engineering) Swinney

Actually writing good software *is* engineering, however a large percentage of folks who call themselves "programmers" are not and in fact do little more than glue together pre-fab code library components to produce horribly bloated and inefficient "applications".

Bye twit.

On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:08:53 -0400, the infamous Wes scrawled the following:

DAYAM! Took you long enough...

-- You can't do anything about the length of your life, but you _can_ do something about its width and depth. -- Evan Esar

The bad thing is when I kill filed him, agent took out tim Wescott. #__# is using regex stuff that confuses agent.

Something to look into. Re-downloading headers to get Mr Wescott back atm.

Wes

How does Tim agreeing with Tim Westcott make him a twit? Other than being a "me too" post, what is the offense?

I was a software "engineer" for 25 years before retiring in '92. Maybe things have changed since then (although I doubt it), but in my career I never did myself, or saw, or heard about, or read about someone using math to analyze the behavior of software. That is the essence of "engineering": the use of math models, based on science, to analyze & predict the behavior of a design. Be it electrical, mechanical, civil, chemical, metallurgical, whatever real engineering. All based on science. Software is NOT included.

Don't get me started on "computer science".

Bob

There are so many skills that are dying away with the craftsmen. Hobbyists seem to be keep the flames alive for a while longer.

Wes

PS

Don't filter on name and author guys to get rid of Author: Tim I couldn't seem to get escaping the regex chars to work and name and author just sees tim and wipes out Tim Wescot and that troll guy.

-- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

I didn't take it as agreement.

Wes

just sees tim

That'll depend on your newsreader. 'tis unfortunate, though.

just sees tim

Agent wiped you out, but downloading all headers after deleting the filter got you back. I'll use the organic filter and the delete key for the other "Tim" until I figure this out.

Wes

Won't matter because we will either all be living off of the government and it's phoney money by then or we will allow our conquers to move us back into the 16th century